# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 179
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3568 "2020-11-06T17:04:08Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Thank you, Jo Jorgenson!! As I said about a thousand posts upthread (this thread is really moving quickly!), I’m not sure you draw this conclusion. It’s incredibly difficult to be sure about the effects of a Libertarian candidate on a race. Some people assume that the vast majority of Libertarian voters would otherwise have voted Republican, but exit polls and other investigations of Libertarian voting show that this just isn’t the case, or not always anyway. The Libertarians get more votes from disaffected Democrats than some people want to admit, and, more importantly, a significant number of Libertarian voters simply won’t vote if their only choice is a Democrat or a Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3569 "2020-11-06T17:06:08Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/bUFxAbXQ0s0/maxresdefault.jpg "Donald J. Trump - I Don't Wanna Go!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUFxAbXQ0s0) ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3570 "2020-11-06T17:06:30Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I assume he will blanket pardon himself in the very near future. I admit that pardons is one area of presidential power where I don’t have much expertise, but can a president pardon himself pre-emptively, in the absence of a charge or a conviction? I would be very surprised if Trump could issue a blanket pardon, relieving himself of any consequences even from future prosecutions. If he can, in fact, do that, it’s a travesty of the pardon privilege. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3571 "2020-11-06T17:07:55Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I admit that pardons is one area of presidential power where I don’t have much expertise, but can a president pardon himself pre-emptively, in the absence of a charge or a conviction? I would be very surprised if Trump could issue a blanket pardon, relieving himself of any consequences even from future prosecutions. > > If he can, in fact, so that, it’s a travesty of the pardon privilege. We have no idea, because nobody has tried it. In fact, we aren’t even sure that Ford’s pardon of Nixon was totally binding because no charges were pursued so the pardon wasn’t tested. That’s my understand at least - willing to be corrected. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3572 "2020-11-06T17:09:41Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > As I said about a thousand posts upthread (this thread is really moving quickly!), I’m not sure you draw this conclusion. I think your overall point is well taken. However, with Jorgensen pulling in over 60,000 votes and the margin between Biden and Trump at just over 1,000, I feel pretty comfortable saying that Jorgensen probably sealed the deal in this case in GA. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3573 "2020-11-06T17:11:09Z")
Both John James, who ran against Gary Peters for Senate in my state, and Eric Esshaki, who ran against Haley Stevens for Rep in my district, lost but are also refusing to concede. What trumping crybabies. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3574 "2020-11-06T17:11:59Z")
I bet Bill Barr has just stopped answering his phone. As has Mike Pence. I wish I was a fly on the wall in Barr’s house or office or wherever he is now. I wish I was the fly on Pence’s head. I wonder if Pence will concede before Trump. I’ve gotta confess, I thought some of you guys were really over the top in your “What if Trump won’t Leave” speculations, but now I think you were right. Which may be good. Anyone with good common sense would concede before they lose their chance to fight another day - but now I’m starting to think that Trump might have to be forcibly removed. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3575 "2020-11-06T17:13:27Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUFxAbXQ0s0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUFxAbXQ0s0) Hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3576 "2020-11-06T17:14:24Z")
I started [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-leave-office-peacefully-and-normally-if-he-loses-the-election/849110/108) awhile back. I’m looking through it right now to see what we all thought at the time. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3577 "2020-11-06T17:14:27Z")
Two comforting thoughts: A recount is not a do-over. They don’t go trolling for new ballots; they simply re-count (like it says on the tin) the ballots already in hand. It seldom amounts to much. My nightmare before the election was that Trump would contest every state he lost, and that his appointed minions in the judiciary would send things straight on the SCOTUS. But it seems apparent that even conservative judges have some standards, and what to see _some_ evidence of fraud before they entertain a lawsuit. I expect every Trump challenge to be laughed out of court immediately. As Gerald Ford said: Our long national nightmare is over. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3578 "2020-11-06T17:17:21Z")
That “I don’t wanna go” toddler tantrum video is AWESOME. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3579 "2020-11-06T17:17:36Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Anyone with good common sense would concede before they lose their chance to fight another day - but now I’m starting to think that Trump might have to be forcibly removed. Frog-marched out of the White House would be great, El Chapo style, with a female LEO twisting his head toward the cameras. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3580 "2020-11-06T17:18:15Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Our long national nightmare is over Amen. I’ve been waiting to quote that here for four friggin’ years. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3581 "2020-11-06T17:18:58Z")
[https://twitter.com/stevethomma/status/1324761733303541760?s=19](https://twitter.com/stevethomma/status/1324761733303541760?s=19) ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3582 "2020-11-06T17:19:25Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > As Gerald Ford said: Our long national nightmare is over. Compared to the last 4 years, the Watergate scandal was a brief bad dream. At least Nixon had the sense to listen to the fat lady singing. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3583 "2020-11-06T17:19:25Z")
[[Album] The Yeeting of Donald Trump ![](https://i.imgur.com/bFVpLO1.jpeg?fb "The Yeeting of Donald Trump") ](https://imgur.com/a/Podb470) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3584 "2020-11-06T17:19:48Z")
Ahahahahahahaha! Saving that in case Trump loses. ---
**Author:** ![Wrenching\_Spanners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecb155/32.png) [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3585 "2020-11-06T17:21:37Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Beating an incumbent president is very, very rare It’s happened 12 times in 58 US elections prior to this one. Three times in the past 50 years. If someone wants to reduce those fractions further, they can count the number of two-term presidents who chose not to or weren’t allowed to run again. Is there a reason you’re using bad data to overpromote Biden’s achievement? > **[List of presidents who did not win reelection](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_who_did_not_win_reelection)** > > This is a list of incumbent presidents as heads of state and/or heads of state and government in any country who ran for another term in office but were not reelected. > Then-Vice President Osmeña succeeded Manuel L. Quezon after the latter died on 1944. Osmeña lost his own right term to Manuel Roxas on 1946 Philippine presidential election. > Then-Vice President Quirino succeeded Manuel Roxas on 1948. > Quirino won his own right on 1949 presidential election. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3586 "2020-11-06T17:22:25Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > in case Trump loses Are you in a t-minus-48-hours time warp or something? No snark intended — genuinely curious! ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3587 "2020-11-06T17:23:12Z")
Georgia up to 1584 for Biden 99% reported Penn is up to 9748 for Biden at 98% reported Arizona is at 43779 for Biden at 90% reported. _No change_ Nevada is up to 20542 for Biden at 86% reported. ~~N. Carolina for Trump 76701 94% reported.~~ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=178) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=180)