# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3648 "2020-11-06T18:21:50Z")

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Maybe it’s because I’m at a distance but I’m surprised you say the GOP were convinced they’d win. I can see Trump and his ilk convincing themselves with their fanaticism that they’d win, but I always imagine the GOP being a bit more level-headed and were bracing themselves for a wipeout. I thought they were mainly relieved as the results came in, for the Senate, House and State results.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3649 "2020-11-06T18:22:25Z")

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So how severe would the reversal need to be in the various states for Trump to pull this off? Like, are there any metaphors that can help put it into context?

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3650 "2020-11-06T18:23:25Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I suppose the PA legislature could say screw the voters we’re going to substitute our own electors. But I don’t think they would.

Can’t find the cites, but:

(1) I had heard that there is a US statute that prohibits state legislatures from changing the method of elector selection after the election has occurred.  
(2) Saw a comment this morning from one of the Republican leaders in the PA legislature along the lines of “Of course we won’t do that.”

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3651 "2020-11-06T18:24:50Z")

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> [@Kron](#):
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> You changed your avatar!

I did! The old one was of a bush I photographed from underneath last autumn, and as an avatar, it looked kind of like a shrub in Hell, so I switched to a photo of the real Nellie Bly.

Sorry for the detour, everyone else.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3652 "2020-11-06T18:25:04Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Rush Limbaugh just called the election, apparently. 538 was reporting it. I mean…is Limbaugh admits it is over…it’s time.

I was listening to his show an hour ago and he vehemently denied saying he had conceded the election, only that he was talking about what would happen if Trump were to lose. He was also ranting that “Democrat [sic] operatives” were feeding thousands of phony ballots in the states where Biden had gained the last couple of days.

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3653 "2020-11-06T18:29:06Z")

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Biden just increased his lead in PA by 981 votes from quite red (Trump+37) Crawford County. 62% for Biden, which seems pretty common for the deeper red counties in PA. Don’t think there are an hidden pockets of red votes out there, Biden’s lead should continue to creep up.

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**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3654 "2020-11-06T18:30:53Z")

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Huge shoutout to my local radio [KEXP](https://www.kexp.org/) that has had 4 straight days of Election playlist keeping me sane.

Highlights from Tuesday:

- Sleep Now in the Fire
- Galvanize
- Revolution
- The Rising
- Things Can Only Get Better
- Time Has Come Today

Highlights from Wed/Thu:

- Running Up That Hill
- Maps
- Don’t Give Up
- Swim Until You Can’t See Land
- Tomorrow Never Knows
- Where Is My Mind?
- Comfortably Numb

Highlights from today:

- Dancing in the Street
- Philadelphia Freedom
- Georgia on My Mind
- All You Fascists Bound To Lose
- Another One Bites the Dust
- Heroes
- Vote 'Em Out
- Hit the Road Jack
- Tears of a Clown

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3655 "2020-11-06T18:31:29Z")

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Anybody ny watched “The Boys”. on Netflix? (or is it Prime?) Is so, you’ll know why I ask.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3656 "2020-11-06T18:32:57Z")

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Not interested in such a pointless semantics discussion. I’m happy with the result, and I encourage other Democrats to be happy too. If you want to be unhappy, that’s your business.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3657 "2020-11-06T18:33:23Z")

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> [@squidfood](#):
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> Huge shoutout to my local radio [KEXP](https://www.kexp.org/)

I listen to KEXP when I’m in the Seattle office. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3658 "2020-11-06T18:34:28Z")

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What is this happy horseshit?

> **[Days after the election, Wisconsin Republicans urged volunteers to call...](https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/06/trumps-wisconsin-campaign-asks-pennsylvania-cast-late-ballots/6182506002/)**
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> Even as the president rails against counting valid votes, his team appeared to encourage illegal late voting in crucial Pennsylvania

Reportedly, the Trump campaign in Wisconsin is looking for volunteers to call people in Pennsylvania to send in late absentee ballots. If true, this only makes sense in the Trumpist mindset of “We assume the Democrats are getting late ballots counted so either we’ll get _our_ late ballots counted or we’ll demonstrate that illegal voting is happening by committing it ourselves.”

In reality, any late votes will simply get tossed because the people in charge of validating and counting ballots in PA aren’t fucking idiots.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3659 "2020-11-06T18:35:53Z")

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Latest headline from

[https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-biden-election-results-11-06-20/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-biden-election-results-11-06-20/index.html)

## Sources close to the White House say some officials are beginning to quietly back away from Trump

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3660 "2020-11-06T18:37:56Z")

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Also seen on Facebook:

_“We are all waiting breathlessly to see if the candidate with four million more votes wins the Presidency.”_

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3661 "2020-11-06T18:38:00Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Latest headline from -
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> [November 6, 2020 US election news](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-biden-election-results-11-06-20/index.html)
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> ## Sources close to the White House say some officials are beginning to quietly back away from Trump

When does it turn into a stampede?

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3662 "2020-11-06T18:38:43Z")

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As soon as the beta monkeys feel confident enough to kick the fallen alpha monkey.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3663 "2020-11-06T18:44:36Z")

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Stillwell has a message for Trump.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3664 "2020-11-06T18:47:04Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> So how severe would the reversal need to be in the various states for Trump to pull this off? Like, are there any metaphors that can help put it into context?

In PA and NV, it’s essentially impossible. There is no conceivable set of circumstances where things get reversed.

In GA, it’s the football team needing a TD, onside kick, and FG in the last 2 minutes. It could happen, but it’s _really_ rare. The question in GA are the overseas and provisional ballots.

In AZ, it’s not out of the question, but is looking much less likely after the last batch. I can’t think of a good analogy, but personally I’d be willing to bet on Biden winning with 5:1 odds.

Note that the last two states are not needed to reach 270, so an overall reversal just isn’t possible.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3665 "2020-11-06T18:50:13Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> In PA and NV, it’s essentially impossible. There is no conceivable set of circumstances where things get reversed.

Sports analogy: Quarterback just needs to take a knee for the final 10 seconds. ETA: But the winning team just got the ball back so they need time to switch squads first.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3666 "2020-11-06T18:54:15Z")

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Trump got more votes than any defeated candidate ever. He is literally the biggest loser in US electoral history.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3667 "2020-11-06T18:54:19Z")

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So when are they going to call it? The more piecemeal the announcement is, the more conspiracy theories there will be.

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