# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4050 "2020-11-07T04:00:23Z")

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We’ll see.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4051 "2020-11-07T04:02:00Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Starting with Obama the republicans pledged themselves to absolute obstruction.

You think that might soften a bit if McConnell were gone?

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4052 "2020-11-07T04:02:03Z")

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Nah…the republicans have already done it.

They have already pledged to keep doing it.

The republican playbook is now to oppose everything a democrat may put forward.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4053 "2020-11-07T04:03:07Z")

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> [@sweepkick](#):
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> Biden sounds good.

I was really impressed. He was a calming voice. You could even see the newscasters calming a little. He talked about how he is already working to find ways to get Covid under control so that the economy can grow. Then he said to be patient and trust the process. He talked about how he wouldn’t let the process be subverted and that the American people can do anything they want when they set their mind to it. It was more calming that I expected it to be.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4054 "2020-11-07T04:04:37Z")

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I don’t know. Maybe. It takes a special kind of person (I think…I hope) to be as unrepentantly evil as Mitch McConnell. There truly has to be a special place in hell for this guy. As bad as Trump was for the country McConnell was worse…waaaay worse.

I seriously hope there aren’t others as malicious as McConnell but then McConnell wrote a new “Fuck You” playbook that the next majority leader is likely to follow.

Republicans have painted themselves into a corner. I don’t see that they have a way out.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4055 "2020-11-07T04:05:06Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> Biden now a full .5 up in PA.

Not quite (at least not on the NYT page).

I wonder if the networks have been waiting for the lead to be 0.5% and expected it to be much earlier but the vote counting slowed waaaaay down today.

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**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4056 "2020-11-07T04:05:14Z")

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It’s just so fucking nice to hear a _President_ speak again

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4057 "2020-11-07T04:06:24Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I don’t know. Maybe. It takes a special kind of person (I think…I hope) to be as unrepentantly evil as Mitch McConnell. There truly has to be a special place in hell for this guy. As bad as Trump was for the country McConnell was worse…waaaay worse.-

No fucking joke. I don’t hate DJT, but I hate Mitch. He is evil and destructive.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4058 "2020-11-07T04:07:14Z")

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Quite, on MSNBC. ETA 🙂

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4059 "2020-11-07T04:07:18Z")

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> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> I just watched the update on Maracopa County. I think I’m going to puke.

Biden’s lead dropped by about 3%. Not enough to really give Trump a real chance, but I’d guess that 90% of the racists idiots in the country live in Arizona. I wouldn’t put anything beyond them.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4060 "2020-11-07T04:07:43Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> > [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> > I’m guessing they are planning his exit strategy to get out of the country before January 20 and what lousy things he can do in the next two months (staring with pardons).
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> > I am not kidding. I cannot imagine Trump wanting to stay in the US after he is out of office. There are a slew of legal actions waiting for him.
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> I would remind the White House that Canada has closed its border with the United States and we have an excellent Canada-US Extradition Treaty.
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> Just to cross that option off the list …

Also, Trump wouldn’t be happy here …

> **[Toronto Hotel Is Scrapping the Trump Name (Published 2017)](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/27/world/canada/trump-hotel-toronto-name-change.html)**
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> JCF Capital, the new owner of the financially troubled Trump International Hotel and Tower in Toronto, will erase the president’s name from the building.

In addition to his general extreme unpopularity, hundreds of investors are furious at having been fleeced on their investments in the Toronto Trump Hotel & Tower – no surprise there. Some who bought expensive condos hoping to rent or resell at exorbitant profits found there were no takers at half the price they had paid.

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**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4061 "2020-11-07T04:08:04Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> As I understand it, the person needs to have both been an employee/officer of the federal gov’t, _and_ have be holding down a Senate confirmed position.

No, the Acting Secretary must be either a First Assistant (which isn’t defined) OR an official confirmed by the Senate OR a Senior Agency Official.

Thus we had [this situation](https://newrepublic.com/article/154243/trump-administration-cabinet-acting-department-secretaries):

> The White House purged Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen and other top officials in the department in April, leaving it with almost no permanent, Senate-confirmed leaders. The acting secretary, Kevin McAleenan, is technically the commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

Trump was able to exploit the FVRA to his advantage. That’s why in 2019 we had all these:

Acting Defense secretary  
Acting DHS secretary  
Acting UN ambassador  
Acting SBA administrator  
Acting chief of staff  
Acting FEMA director  
Acting ICE director  
Acting USCIS director  
Acting FAA administrator

Nor is the FVRA’s generous 210-day time limit a real obstacle: if the Senate rejects the first or second nomination, or the nomination is withdrawn, the clock starts again, and the acting head can remain another 210 days.

I’m not recommending Biden use these tactics. I just want to point out that the FVRA is, as Trump has proven, hardly impregnable.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4062 "2020-11-07T04:08:08Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> No fucking joke. I don’t hate DJT, but I hate Mitch. He is evil and destructive.

Actually, I hate them both.

I saw Mitch on TV today. He does not look particularly healthy.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4063 "2020-11-07T04:08:16Z")

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> [@Frazzled](#):
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> It’s just so fucking nice to hear a _President_ speak again

Sure sounded good, didn’t it?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4064 "2020-11-07T04:10:51Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> I saw Mitch on TV today. He does not look particularly healthy.

Good!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4065 "2020-11-07T04:12:51Z")

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> [@eschrodinger](#):
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> We’ll see

We’ve seen.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4066 "2020-11-07T04:13:05Z")

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> [@eschrodinger](#):
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> …: put a law in place about what happens if the senate won’t move nominations, or change the vacancies act.

**Mitch** : “Nancy, what’s the point of this _Executive Appointments Act_ that the House has passed?”

**Nancy** : “Well, Mitch, we’ve noticed that the Senate under your leadership was extremely obstructionist to President Obama, and we think you’ll be equally obstructionist to President Biden, so we’ve passed this bill to reduce the Senate’s abilities to block appointments by the President.”

**Universe 1 Mitch** : “Nancy, that’s a great idea! We’ll make sure the bill moves quickly for the President to sign!”

**Universe 2 Mitch** : “Interesting. No.” [sound of shredder beside Mitch’s desk]

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4067 "2020-11-07T04:13:06Z")

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Has anyone seen Mitch’s hands on camera in the last few days? Better? Worse?

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**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jungian_camisole1/32/3646_2.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole1)\
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I have been out of pocket all day. The first thing I hear on TV is that we had 125,000 new cases of the virus. No person in the current administration gives even one tenth of a shit.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4069 "2020-11-07T04:16:11Z")

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