# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4570 "2020-11-07T22:01:59Z")

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> [@CastletonSnob1](#):
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> Where would you rank Trump on the list of presidents, from best to worst?

I would rate him 99th out of 46.

Other presidents, like Buchanan, have been incompetent. Other presidents, like Nixon, have been malevolent. But I think they all cared about the country. Trump is a unique combination of incompetence and malevolence.

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**Author:** ![Hermione1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d07c76/32.png) [@Hermione1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermione1)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4571 "2020-11-07T22:03:20Z")

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And if I had a cannon I would fire it,  
To add a sort of final victory touch,  
But since I left my cannon at home,  
I’ll simply have to say…  
Thank you very, very, very much!!!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4572 "2020-11-07T22:04:40Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> Most of the leaders know and trust Biden.

Another reason why it had to be Joe.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4573 "2020-11-07T22:10:43Z")

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I can play cards again and ask “What’s trump?” without cringing.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4574 "2020-11-07T22:15:10Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Other presidents, like Buchanan, have been incompetent. Other presidents, like Nixon, have been malevolent. But I think they all cared about the country. Trump is a unique combination of incompetence and malevolence.

In terms of their interest in helping the country, Trump is not just 45th, but a very distant 45th. (Even if you count Biden, there have only been 45 presidents. Cleveland is counted twice but he is not actually two people.)

You can argue Trump caused less material damage than Buchanan, I suppose. I’m not saying that’s a argument I am convinced of, but you can make it. It wasn’t for lack of trying though, and I am 100% certain had he been re-elected he’d have blown Buchanan out of the water.

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**Author:** ![CastletonSnob1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@CastletonSnob1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CastletonSnob1)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4575 "2020-11-07T22:15:54Z")

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Can Trump still win if he takes it to court and wins there?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4576 "2020-11-07T22:16:52Z")

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I guess nothing’s impossible. That would probably be the end of American democracy.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4577 "2020-11-07T22:19:28Z")

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> [@CastletonSnob1](#):
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> Can Trump still win if he takes it to court and wins there?

“Takes it to court” on what grounds? Even if some states do recounts, most of them are out of the range a recount would make a difference.

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**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4578 "2020-11-07T22:20:09Z")

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Still ahead in Georgia by 7,500 with 99% reporting. I’d love to see him seal that one for “cushion” and also to get to that magical 306 which, based on 2016 results, qualifies to Trump as a “landslide”.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4579 "2020-11-07T22:20:58Z")

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> [@CastletonSnob1](#):
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> Can Trump still win if he takes it to court and wins there?

Judging by how quickly his dumb lawsuits are getting slapped down, I’m optimistic in the integrity of the courts. He has no case beyond, “I really, really want to be President.”

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4580 "2020-11-07T22:22:38Z")

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> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#):
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> Still ahead in Georgia by 7,500 with 99% reporting. I’d love to see him seal that one for “cushion” and also to get to that magical 306 which, based on 2016 results, qualifies to Trump as a “landslide”.

I heard pundits on both CNN and MSNBC say that Georgia might not be called until a recount is completed.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4581 "2020-11-07T22:22:56Z")

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> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#):
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> Still ahead in Georgia by 7,500 with 99% reporting. I’d love to see him seal that one for “cushion” and also to get to that magical 306 which, based on 2016 results, qualifies to Trump as a “landslide”.

Do you think GA is going to call it before the recount?

Edit: ninja’d!

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4582 "2020-11-07T22:25:48Z")

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I believe that even if trump wins every lawsuit and both recounts he still loses.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4583 "2020-11-07T22:27:05Z")

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I am also in the camp of Trump’s portrait going up. Can someone please paint this?

[![](https://www.businessinsider.in/thumb/msid-78858861,width-600,resizemode-4,imgsize-27266/politics/world/news/lets-talk-about-how-trumps-hands-dont-match-his-face-and-what-that-says-about-america-right-now/img5f92dd80abcd0c0018d694d0.jpg) ](https://www.businessinsider.in/thumb/msid-78858861,width-600,resizemode-4,imgsize-27266/politics/world/news/lets-talk-about-how-trumps-hands-dont-match-his-face-and-what-that-says-about-america-right-now/img5f92dd80abcd0c0018d694d0.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4584 "2020-11-07T22:29:13Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Hey, Loser Donald - YOU’RE FIRED!

This is my favorite thing. He made such a big deal of the “you’re fired” catchphrase. I love that it can now be used on him.

So relieved - finally. Still worried because there are so many bullshit obstacles yet to come but this is a good start.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4585 "2020-11-07T22:32:12Z")

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Some of the networks have said they won’t call a state if it’s inside the recount margin. This was one of the reasons given for waiting to call Pennsylvania. So Georgia might not be called at all by those networks.

If the final tally of this initial count has Biden up several thousand votes, as it is now, then a recount isn’t going to change anything.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4586 "2020-11-07T22:36:12Z")

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> [@nelliebly](#):
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> I don’t want Trump erased from history. That’d be impossible. But while I was half-joking about his official portrait, I’d certainly appreciate a long wait before his portrait is hung, not because I opposed him, but because there will be people passing by that portrait every day to whom the fear and pain wrought by his presidency are still very fresh and very real.

Maybe the portrait could be the “dejected trump” version instead of the “smug smile” version.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4587 "2020-11-07T22:37:10Z")

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I really, really, really want Biden to get to 306.

“We had a massive landslide victory, as you know, in the electoral college, I guess the final number is 306." - DJT, December 2016

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**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4588 "2020-11-07T22:37:56Z")

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Thanks for the reminder about the recount. Duh.

I wonder the logistics of that - does Biden start out with any kind of “advantage” if he ends this step with a 7,000 vote lead?

For example, do they go back through and unless they find 7,000 ballots that were marked as Biden (and shouldn’t have been), then Biden wins?

Or do they scrap everything, pull all the ballots back out, start both guys at 0 and begin counting from there?

Not sure if my question makes sense in print - in my head it does though.

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4589 "2020-11-07T22:40:08Z")

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> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#):
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> Or do they scrap everything, pull all the ballots back out, start both guys at 0 and begin counting from there?

This, I believe, is the answer.

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