# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 250
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4990 "2020-11-08T20:28:45Z")
Oh, I don’t think it’s going to be coherent at all, but I think you are underestimating the level of crazy. I fully expect him to try to fire Bill Barr and put it Rudy as acting AG and to try to fire Chris Wray and install Ric Grennell, for the stated purpose of making arrests. I guess where my opinion splits from everyone else is I believe Trump truly and deeply believes there was a vast conspiracy to steal the election. And I believe that Rudy truly believes it. I think the Christian Coalition toxic masculinity prayer circle crowd, like Pence and Meadows, will delude themselves into enabling him for longer than you’d think possible because of that “God’s Plan for a Christian Nation” stuff. But a lot of this is wishful thinking, because I want Republicans to be forced to confront the monster he created. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4991 "2020-11-08T20:28:51Z")
[This is gold](https://twitter.com/nanglish/status/1325242917519233024?s=20). “No we do not have a podium why would we have a podium?! We have a roto-tiller–I know it’s not the same thing, I’m just trying to match your energy!” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4992 "2020-11-08T20:29:02Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > But I don’t understand the people that think he’s going to pivot and accept reality. Have they not met him? Remember this is the guy that still bitter because in 1987 some guy told him his fingers were short. Yesterday, 100 million people were dancing in the streets calling him a loser. He’s gonna crack up. Maybe they should call him a short-fingered loser. He’ll forget to be upset at being called a loser, the way he didn’t bother objecting to “vulgarian.” ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4993 "2020-11-08T20:31:08Z")
Eyeballing from The NY Times percent counted I get 29k from Pima, Apache, and Santa Cruz and 30k from the red counties. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4994 "2020-11-08T20:52:34Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I fully expect him to try to fire Bill Barr and put it Rudy as acting AG and to try to fire Chris Wray and install Ric Grennell, for the stated purpose of making arrests. I kind of hope you are right, for the entertainment value. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4995 "2020-11-08T20:55:31Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > Eyeballing from The NY Times percent counted I get 29k from Pima, Apache, and Santa Cruz and 30k from the red counties. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4996 "2020-11-08T21:08:23Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I fully expect him to try to fire Bill Barr and put it Rudy as acting AG and to try to fire Chris Wray and install Ric Grennell, for the stated purpose of making arrests. I feel like I’m fighting a losing battle on this one, but he can’t. Somehow people got the impression that a President can just install anyone he wants in a Cabinet position and avoid Senate confirmation as long as its as an “Acting” secretary. Trump can’t, and he hasn’t. “Acting” officials have to be appointed in line with the Federal Vacancies Reform Act, and all of Trump’s “acting” officials have been. There’s been controversy about some _staying_ in office longer than allowed under that act, but all were initially eligible to serve as “acting” officials under the statute. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4997 "2020-11-08T21:10:35Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > I feel like I’m fighting a losing battle on this one, but he can’t. True, but (as **Ann\_Hedonia** carefully notes) he can _try_. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4998 "2020-11-08T21:17:31Z")
Yes, that’s why I used the word _try_. If I thought he’d succeed, I’d be scared. I keep coming back to the replace Barr and Wray so they can make arrests thing because it’s been floated all over alt-right media but it might be something different but completely crazy. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/4999 "2020-11-08T21:22:14Z")
I think if Trump were going to be capable of accepting this, everyone around him, plus the Fox people, etc. would have to have been preparing him for a long time before this. I’m not sure it would have worked,even then, but no way is it going to work after he’s lost. No way he can accept that blow to his ego. Maybe, maybe, telling him for months before the election that, on the off chance that the public made a terrible error and didn’t appreciate him enough, he should give them what they deserve for that by leaving, and depriving the US of his perfect presidentness. Maaaaaybe then. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5000 "2020-11-08T21:46:18Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > File a few frivolous lawsuits to get thrown out by those liberal judges… Heck, even the conservative judges have been shooting down the moronic GOP lawsuits lately. I’m worried about scumbag legislators in red states screwing with the electoral college in the coming weeks. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5001 "2020-11-08T21:57:13Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Agreed in principle, but … > > He has 70,000,000 supporters. RW news media _definitely_ won’t ignore him. Actually, they’ll turn away from him pretty quickly and onto the next flavor of the month. He’s no longer relevant. > [@Aspenglow](#): > > Trump is not going to quit fighting. In fact, I suspect he will continue to fight this lawful outcome for the rest of his life. So says Michael Cohen, who conducted an interview this morning on MSNBC. He knows a thing or two about Trump and how he will react. Trump may leave the White House, but he is never going to stop pushing the false narrative of how he really won the 2020 election. But the thing is, Trump almost NEVER fights. I know that’s the narrative about him, but it is demonstrably not true. When people say he “fights” what they are referring to are his insult and tantrums and riling up his base. He’s very good at screaming and saying mean things, but that is not “fighting” in any sense that matters. How many tough legislative battle did he win? Think about LBJ passing civil rights, Obama pushing through ACA, Nixon getting the EPA done, stuff like that. That’s FIGHTING. Think of Kennedy standing up to Khruschev. Trump never, ever stands up; he yells and insults but when faced with a fight he usually runs away, kowtows, or just refuses to engage at all. He’ll settle a lawsuit or try to wait it out. He promises to do something and never does. Trump will absolutely yell, and threaten, and scream, and deny, and insult, and come up with mean names. He will not actually fight. He’s not man enough. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5002 "2020-11-08T22:04:34Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I fully expect him to try to fire Bill Barr and put it Rudy as acting AG… I would kill to see that, or maybe get The Mooch. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5003 "2020-11-08T22:07:41Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Certainly true but it is near impossible to ignore the president. Well, you certainly can’t ignore the pernicious effects of the toxic radiation he oozes. But I will say I have successfully gone the four years since he was elected without listening to his voice for more than a couple of seconds at a time (and yes, that means I avoided listening to the most recent set of presidential debates). The fact that his blustering makes me want to stab a screwdriver into my ear may or may not have something to do with this. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5004 "2020-11-08T22:09:24Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > But the thing is, Trump almost NEVER fights. Exactly right. As stated upthread (I think it was this thread), there were only two meaningful pieces of legislation passed under his watch, the tax cut and the repeal of the ACA mandate. When he was confronted in person (for example, by Pelosi), he wilted and refused to engage face-to-face. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5005 "2020-11-08T22:13:53Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > But I will say I have successfully gone the four years since he was elected without listening to his voice for more than a couple of seconds at a time (and yes, that means I avoided listening to the most recent set of presidential debates). The fact that his blustering makes me want to stab a screwdriver into my ear may or may not have something to do with this. Ditto (which I’ve often stated here). (pretty sure **ThelmaLou** has been another active non-listener). Not sure if I’ve ever given President Four Seasons the chance to string more than ten words together. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5006 "2020-11-08T22:14:50Z")
I made this just now. > ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5007 "2020-11-08T22:15:54Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > his blustering makes me want to stab a screwdriver into my ear I think it’s more than that. I remember an analysis by a neuropsychologist or some such professional, shared on this board shortly into the Trump administration, that examined Trump’s emotional range as manifested by his facial expressions. The conclusion was that his set was uncommonly limited, as if there are many subtle emotions he doesn’t even experience. That’s how I feel about the rise and fall of his voice (also subject to empirical analysis, though I don’t have the training to do it). His tonal quality seems to have two settings: insincere piety and anger. If you were just to listen to the pitch of his voice, with the words “blurred out,” you would find no warmth, humor, concern, inspiration, excitement, disbelief, sorrow, or many of the other normal human emotive states you would expect to hear, especially from a leader speaking to “his” people. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5008 "2020-11-08T22:20:50Z")
From CNN: > [@](#): > > [President Donald Trump’s inner circle is beginning to split over his ongoing refusal to accept the results of the 2020 election, as Jared Kushner and first lady Melania Trump advised him to come to terms with President-elect Joe Biden’s victory and his adult sons pressed him and allies to keep fighting.](https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/08/politics/jared-kushner-donald-trump-concession/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5009 "2020-11-08T22:27:28Z")
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