# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 251
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5010 "2020-11-08T22:29:57Z")
It’s like taking care of a toddler, which I believe is literally how ex-admin have described working with Trump. If they tell him to concede, he never will. If they explain how acquiescing could help him post-presidency, maybe he can be persuaded. He will always do what is best for #1. Ivanka has said that in their family, it was always clear. “Dad first, everyone else second.” If they can show him it is best for him, he can find a way to quit without admitting anything. I think he’ll angry tweet until January 20 and then live-tweet the next inauguration while he pouts. He’s honestly a sad, pathetic, shell of a man. Always has been. He’s as deep as a puddle and there really is nothing there inside. Just selfishness and all-consuming-gain. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5011 "2020-11-08T22:30:03Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > But the thing is, Trump almost NEVER fights. I know that’s the narrative about him, but it is demonstrably not true. When people say he “fights” what they are referring to are his insult and tantrums and riling up his base. He’s very good at screaming and saying mean things, but that is not “fighting” in any sense that matters… > [@Railer13](#): > > …When he was confronted in person (for example, by Pelosi), he wilted and refused to engage face-to-face. He does not fight. He runs. He has always run away from fights. When people show you who they are, believe them. And he has shown us over and over that he is a gutless, whiny coward. For him to continue fighting this would be completely out of character for him (pardon the use of the word _character_). Besides, he will need lawyers to handle all this pointless, expensive litigation. Who is going to want to be his mouthpiece (ewww!) when he’s out of work? He is known for stiffing everyone. > [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Ditto (which I’ve often stated here). (pretty sure **ThelmaLou** has been another active non-listener). Not sure if I’ve ever given President Four Seasons the chance to string more than ten words together. Yup. Proud to say his blather has not contaminated my eardrums. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5012 "2020-11-08T22:30:54Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > His tonal quality seems to have two settings: insincere piety and anger. If you were just to listen to the pitch of his voice, with the words “blurred out,” you would find no warmth, humor, concern, inspiration, excitement, disbelief, sorrow, or many of the other normal human emotive states you would expect to hear, especially from a leader speaking to “his” people. That’s an interesting theory. I literally can’t stand to listen to him for more than a minute or two. I tried to watch the debates with my spouse, but I had to leave the room after a short time. I’m not sure if this is the reason. I grew up with a malignant-narcissist father, and I’m very sensitive to those traits. Like, people with similar traits make me very uncomfortable, and I can tell from an early stage when someone is going to wind up being very bad news. I think Trump just goes off the scale on making me uncomfortable, so I actually can’t listen to him. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5013 "2020-11-08T22:33:05Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > But the thing is, Trump almost NEVER fights. I know that’s the narrative about him, but it is demonstrably not true. When people say he “fights” what they are referring to are his insult and tantrums and riling up his base. He’s very good at screaming and saying mean things, but that is not “fighting” in any sense that matters. I don’t dispute this, and I should have been more clear that by “fight,” I meant he will use whatever means are at his disposal. I’m not sure how effective his fighting will be – only that he will carry it out to the bitter last breath. We can’t dispute that he has those 70,000,000 followers referred to by @DavidNRockies. Fox “News” may turn away from Trump somewhat, but I’m already seeing urgings from Teh Trump Faithfull to move on to Newsmax and OANN. He is never going to lose these people. You’re correct – and like you, I should have made the point – that Trump does almost nothing that passes as actual work. McConnell and the Federalist Society could have had a stuffed newt sitting at the Resolution Desk for the past 4 years and would have accomplished the same goals as they did with Trump sitting there. And again, how effective his fighting may be, I have my hopeful doubts that it is not going to go as he wants it to. He may well live out his days doing nothing but fending off civil lawsuits and going to prison, no time or money to pursue anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5014 "2020-11-08T22:33:46Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > It’s like taking care of a toddler, which I believe is literally how ex-admin have described working with Trump. > ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5015 "2020-11-08T22:41:50Z")
I didn’t listen to more than a newsclip until his pressers this week. I was hesitant at first, but I enjoyed those. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5016 "2020-11-08T22:43:07Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > McConnell and the Federalist Society could have had a stuffed newt sitting at the Resolution Desk for the past 4 years and would have accomplished the same goals as they did with Trump sitting there. Hell, they probably could have gotten MORE done! 😆 At least the stuffed newt wouldn’t have been on Twitter. or pissing off every country in Europe. Gee… I’m getting a mental picture of a stuffed Newt Gingrich. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside… ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5017 "2020-11-08T22:44:46Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Gee… I’m getting a mental picture of a stuffed Newt Gingrich. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside… Only if it gets left out in the rain. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5018 "2020-11-08T22:56:16Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Hell, they probably could have gotten MORE done! 😆 At least the stuffed newt wouldn’t have been on Twitter. or pissing off every country in Europe. Or blowing up deals the congressional leaders thought they had reached with the other party and with the administration departments. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5019 "2020-11-08T22:59:34Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > …Trump does almost nothing that passes as actual work. McConnell and the Federalist Society could have had a stuffed newt sitting at the Resolution Desk for the past 4 years and would have accomplished the same goals as they did with Trump sitting there. This reminds me of a quote from one of my favorite books (substitute Donald Trump for Zaphod Beeblebrox and it still mostly works): > _“The President in particular is very much a figurehead — he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it. On those criteria Zaphod Beeblebrox is one of the most successful Presidents the Galaxy has ever had — he has already spent two of his ten presidential years in prison for fraud.”_ ~ Douglas Adams, [The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy](https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/3078186) ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5020 "2020-11-08T23:01:47Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Gee… I’m getting a mental picture of a stuffed Newt Gingrich. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside… When I first read that my first thought went to Newt Gingrich. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5021 "2020-11-08T23:04:16Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Only if it gets left out in the rain. 🙂 Hehe. Would it be more apt sprinkled with seeds and turned into a chia pet, or simply left to get moldy…? ---
**Author:** ![xanthous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/53a042/32.png) [@xanthous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xanthous)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5022 "2020-11-08T23:05:07Z")
Count me as four. I successfully avoided every sight or sound of him for 3.25 years…until this pandemic. I tuned in to that Rose Garden address he gave in March- you know, the one with all the captains of industry plus Drs. Fauci/Birx behind him. I was scared and I needed a voice of leadership like I did from Bush after 9/11 and was willing to give these guys a chance to give me some kind of reassurance as my president. What a mistake. That day I discovered that: A - he really **does** look and sound like Alec Baldwin B - he really **is** a liar (with that whole “Google will be launching a Covid testing website early this week” fabrication- I actually cried tears of relief that it seemed like this was being handled [until I saw Google’s tweet of “WTF” 20 minutes later]). I don’t know why I let him even fool me once. Shame on me. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5023 "2020-11-08T23:08:47Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Trump will absolutely yell, and threaten, and scream, and deny, and insult, and come up with mean names. He will not actually fight. He’s not man enough. But…but…he’s the Alpha Male to end all Alpha Males! Mr. Macho personified! Ever hear of Arnie, Sly, Dolph? Wimps. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5024 "2020-11-08T23:13:27Z")
Damn, as much as I enjoy every moment of schadenfreude at thinking of him dying the death of a thousand cuts and he watches every celebration, and gets the updates of every court case being thrown out, It has gotten pathetic enough I just want it over. I have couple acquaintances and family members who are so far gone into the cult they spend every waking now moment just waiting for the breakthrough that is going to turn this around. It’s seriously like watching an orphan kid in a Dicken’s novel at dawn Christmas morning, who is still sure that Santa is really going to come this year. Death of a thousands cuts is fun to watch someone evil go through. Not when it’s someone just reallllllly gullible and stupid. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5025 "2020-11-08T23:29:57Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Heck, even the conservative judges have been shooting down the moronic GOP lawsuits lately. > I’m worried about scumbag legislators in red states screwing with the electoral college in the coming weeks. I was going to say that not even Republicans would stoop that low, but on reflection, I guess they would. More pertinent is that not even Republicans would think they could get away with it. Besides, Biden is very likely to have quite a comfortable lead. While CNN still has him pegged at 279 to Trump’s 214, NPR is now projecting 290 to 214, and the lead is likely to keep going up. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5026 "2020-11-08T23:33:17Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > I’m worried about scumbag legislators in red states screwing with the electoral college in the coming weeks. IIRC federal law prohibits states from changing their laws on electors during an election (precisely for this reason). So they can’t mess with that (luckily). Once this election is over and the EC has voted the states can change the rules if they want. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5027 "2020-11-08T23:41:03Z")
I don’t know how firmly bound electors are in the various states, but certainly in many, the consequences of contrary voting are minimal. So the worry isn’t about official changes to state law, but about underhanded shenanigans. I think Biden having a comfortable lead providing lots of insurance is more reassuring. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5028 "2020-11-08T23:43:11Z")
Thanks 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5029 "2020-11-08T23:43:25Z")
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