# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5130 "2020-11-09T17:58:17Z")

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Very well encapsulated. I will keep this handy.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5131 "2020-11-09T18:16:22Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Yet nobody is explaining to me how the same ballot that is fraudulent for the presidential election is fine for the Congressional election.

Simple. The evil democraps altered and/or added ballots in evil democrap cities. Reality isn’t a factor in this emotion-based fantasy world.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5132 "2020-11-09T18:18:01Z")

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🤦‍♂️

I almost forgot to ask: how did Kanye do?

😃

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5133 "2020-11-09T18:22:21Z")

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60,000 votes. In total. That’s actually pretty impressive - I’ve never heard of a third-party candidate with national name recognition receiving so few votes.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5134 "2020-11-09T18:25:14Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Apparently a whistleblower saw a Biden-Harris van pull up at the back door of one of the vote counting centers. The doors opened and Democrats started opening ballots with letter openers, changing the votes and resealing them.  
> They aren’t even pretending that their supporters have brains anymore.

The best reply I’ve heard to this is that the whistleblower has simply made a mistake: what they actually saw was a van owned by Biden-Harris Total Landscaping.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5135 "2020-11-09T18:25:35Z")

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This is likely why so few GOP politicians are supporting trump in his stolen elections cries.

The GOP overall came out of this much better than they thought. Altho they lost votes in the Senate, the Dems arent gonna get that majority, at best 50/50 and that is unlikely. They picked up a few seats in the House and won in a few state legislatures.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5136 "2020-11-09T18:30:03Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Of course, nothing compares to the 2000 election (Bush/Gore) — a few HUNDRED votes in one state (Florida). That’s the one example within the margin of error for a complex human activity Iike this. It’s literally impossible to know who won the 2000 election.

This is one point that I think should make people hesitate about going to a national popular vote for president. If there were ever an election that close under the popular vote system, you’d have the Florida 2000 recount nonsense across literally the entire country.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5137 "2020-11-09T18:39:55Z")

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> **[‘The View’ host Whoopi Goldberg blasts Trump and his supporters for alleging...](https://www.foxnews.com/media/the-view-whoopi-goldberg-trump-supporters-voter-fraud-suck-it-up)**
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> ABC News’ “The View” co-host Whoopi Goldberg urged Trump supporters to “suck it up” and accept the results of the 2020 presidential election despite President Trump alleging voting irregularities and fraud in multiple states. 

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5138 "2020-11-09T18:43:59Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> And, here’s the latest fraud claim. Apparently a whistleblower saw a Biden-Harris van pull up at the back door of one of the vote counting centers. The doors opened and Democrats started opening ballots with letter openers, changing the votes and resealing them.

Right. Ballots were being delivered for counting by the campaigns themselves. The “whistleblower” for some reason didn’t feel it necessary to mention which counting center. The “Democrats” (what, were they wearing windbreakers with “Democrat” in big yellow letters on the back?) were cutting open ballots with letter openers, and altering the ballots in some way that, presumably, would have been completely undetectable to the counters. Despite the time-consuming nature of such an operation, enough ballots were altered to significantly change the vote tally. This was all being done in the open air, in a parking lot.

Seems legit.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5139 "2020-11-09T18:44:08Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> When will GOP bigwigs start saying “Biden won, let’s get on with it”?
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> I know Mitt Romney did but he’s been semi independent for awhile anyway. Anyone else? Bueller? Bueller? Here’s the thing:
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> 1. THEY KNOW TRUMP LOST. I believe that droolers on the Internet, low information voters, might have been folled into thinking the election was rigged, but Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio absolutely, positively, one hundred percent understand Trump lost and that no recount will change that. There is no doubt in their minds.
> 2. Most of these people do not work for Donald Trump. Senators and Representatives and state governors and legislators don’t answer to Trump, they answer to their constituents. If Trump isn’t President anymore he loses all his influence, so the conclusion one must draw is one of two possibilities:
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> 3A - They would rather overthrow the election results and install Trump than have the democratic republic continue, or
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> 3B - Well, I cannot think of another reason.

3B- Possibly he has compromising information on them?

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5140 "2020-11-09T18:45:44Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> IMHO all of us need to push back on misinformation going forward wherever it emerges. I know we’d rather just let it be, but letting people remain ignorant is what got us the past 4 years. Stupid conspiracies and purveyors of this stuff are more dangerous than we could imagine, and they need to be mocked, humiliated, and discredited as much as possible, even if it means uncomfortable conversations with family members (like I had with my brother over the weekend).

I agree that misinformation is a problem, but I don’t think mocking and humiliating people is the path to fixing it. Adults don’t like to be scolded, and I think they’re more likely to rebel against the scolding rather than to listen and honestly re-evaluate their beliefs.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5141 "2020-11-09T18:47:34Z")

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Hah…they mentioned that in four years Whoopi never mentioned Trump by name. I wonder if that is true. If so…good job Whoopi!

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5142 "2020-11-09T18:48:21Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Joe, I’m on your side, when you’re admonishing the country about covid risks, don’t be like Trump. Is that too much to ask???

I know this is old news on this thread now, but it bothered me how hard you went after Biden on the mask thing. I know you said alcohol was to blame the next morning, and that’s cool.

Still, I think I have the answer for you about why Biden didn’t wear his mask for a few minutes just after the race was called for him: Historic photos. It’s not that he forgot, or was unaware of what he was doing. He simply understood that these photographs of him winning his race would be in the historic record for time immemorial. Maybe he didn’t want every single photo of him winning to have half his face covered up.

If someone else on this thread has already made the point, my apologies. It’s about 1,500 posts in between and I didn’t closely review every one.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5143 "2020-11-09T18:56:45Z")

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> (what, were they wearing windbreakers with “Democrat” in big yellow letters on the back?)

Nah, probably a subtle tell like this:

[![](https://imgix.bustle.com/lovelace/uploads/752/f83282a0-12db-0133-f501-0e18518aac2f.jpg?w=760&h=1066.916237716425&auto=format%2Ccompress&cs=srgb&q=70&fit=crop&crop=faces) ](https://imgix.bustle.com/lovelace/uploads/752/f83282a0-12db-0133-f501-0e18518aac2f.jpg?w=760&h=1066.916237716425&auto=format%2Ccompress&cs=srgb&q=70&fit=crop&crop=faces)

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5144 "2020-11-09T18:58:44Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> Nah, probably a subtle tell like this:

That’s funny as hell. 😃

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5145 "2020-11-09T18:59:18Z")

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> [@borschevsky](#):
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> This is one point that I think should make people hesitate about going to a national popular vote for president. If there were ever an election that close under the popular vote system, you’d have the Florida 2000 recount nonsense across literally the entire country.

Not likely at all. With 50 states, you get this recount nonsense in relatively close elections if the swing state is super close (and by definition the swing state is gonna be super close). With a popular vote, there would’ve been no recount nonsense. 2000 Florida came down to less than a tenth of a percent. 2000 nationwide had a difference of a half a percent.

Popular vote drastically decreases the likelihood of a too-close-to-call election.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5146 "2020-11-09T19:17:35Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> THEY KNOW TRUMP LOST. I believe that droolers on the Internet, low information voters, might have been folled into thinking the election was rigged, but Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio absolutely, positively, one hundred percent understand Trump lost and that no recount will change that. There is no doubt in their minds

I think there may be some deep psychological issues going on with Lindsey right now. I’m sure he realizes that Trump lost, but his whole career he’s always needed to be attached to a much stronger personality in whose image he can mold himself. For a long time it was John McCain, and when he passed Lindsey glommed onto Trump. Where does he go if Trump passes off the scene? How will Lindsey know who he is without Trump? I imagine he’s still in denial.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5147 "2020-11-09T19:18:31Z")

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Why can’t he apply his lips to Mitch’s old, flabby backside? Or does Graham even have limits.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5148 "2020-11-09T19:19:34Z")

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Agree. I meant to mock and humiliate the sources of misinformation, not your friends and family. For my brother, I would make a counterpoint to what he was saying, and provide a link with data (like we do here) to support it. I would also point-out how wrong and stupid some of the concepts he was supporting are (without calling him wrong and stupid). I also made a point not to challenge him on how he voted, just to challenge the info he used to make his decision.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5149 "2020-11-09T19:24:43Z")

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Mitch has no personality. Lindsey needs a larger-than-life personality he can do his best to imitate and ultimately seek approval from. I won’t make any guesses as to how he got this way, but I swear I can hear, “Cat’s in the Cradle” in the background right now.

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