# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5150 "2020-11-09T19:27:15Z")

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Was there a huge celebration in the streets like that when Obama won? Its nice to see. However, its apparently not necessary to social distance anymore, as long as you are celebrating a Democrats win. Hmmmm  
I have a question: If you accidentally stumbled on proof that Trump actually won, would you report it?

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5151 "2020-11-09T19:28:28Z")

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I agree it’s unlikely, but it would be chaos if it ever did. I’m also not sure how one would best estimate the probability of it happening. Is it more likely for the tipping point state to be extremely close than it is for the popular vote to be? There’s also the consideration that campaigns would be run differently, and that can tend to push things toward a 50-50 split.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5152 "2020-11-09T19:33:03Z")

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Heads up, from 5 minutes ago (as I type this):

> <https://twitter.com/BresPolitico/status/1325882898982068227?s=19>

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5153 "2020-11-09T19:37:18Z")

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> [@borschevsky](#):
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> I agree it’s unlikely, but it would be chaos if it ever did.

It would be a lot of work, but chaos? The states all counted the ballots once, they are capable of doing it a second time if required.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5154 "2020-11-09T19:37:39Z")

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Who? What? I don’t get it.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5155 "2020-11-09T19:39:02Z")

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Yes, enlighten me on the meaning of this. (re: Barr walking into McConnell’s office)

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5156 "2020-11-09T19:40:28Z")

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Barr just entered McConnell’s office. What that means yet remains to be seen.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5157 "2020-11-09T19:41:56Z")

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> [@Kron](#):
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> Barr just entered McConnell’s office

Oh. I didn’t even get that much, so thanks.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5158 "2020-11-09T19:47:36Z")

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And while we’re waiting for the significance of that to unfold, may I predict the evolution of this thread title:

It began as the “Election Day 2020 follow-along thread.”

It was edited to the “Election Day [Week] follow-along thread.”

I believe it will soon need to become the “Election Day [Weeks] follow-along thread.”

Somewhere in there it is certain to top 10k posts, so we’ll need “Return of the Election Day [Weeks] follow-along thread” or “Election Day [Weeks] follow-along thread Part 2.”

Let us hope it never becomes [Months], but I am not so sure.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5159 "2020-11-09T19:47:47Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> I think there may be some deep psychological issues going on with Lindsey right now. I’m sure he realizes that Trump lost, but his whole career he’s always needed to be attached to a much stronger personality in whose image he can mold himself. For a long time it was John McCain, and when he passed Lindsey glommed onto Trump. Where does he go if Trump passes off the scene? How will Lindsey know who he is without Trump? I imagine he’s still in denial.

> **[SC’s Graham says Trump should consider a 2024 run if every legal option is...](https://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/election/article247073112.html)**
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> “It would be insane for President Trump not to look at all this stuff,” US Sen. Lindsey Graham said Monday on Fox News Radio.

Headline: “SC’s Graham says Trump should consider a 2024 run if every legal option is exhausted”.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5160 "2020-11-09T19:47:57Z")

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I think the election is over, but the matter of when and under what circumstances Trump leaves office is far from settled.

The republicans have created a cult, and that cult is going to outlive Trump’s presidency. In the meantime, if I didn’t know any better, I would say that the republicans seem to be increasingly toying with the idea of playing constitutional hardball and urging right-leaning legislatures to select their own slate of electors. It seems like an outrageous idea, but nothing is outrageous to republicans anymore.

Whether states go along with that idea or not, and exactly how much traction this conspiracy gets, I have no idea. But I certainly think it’s within the realm of the possible. Republicans don’t do democracy and they don’t do reality. As I said: authoritarian cult.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5161 "2020-11-09T19:50:54Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Headline: “SC’s Graham says Trump should consider a 2024 run if every legal option is exhausted”.

_When you comin’ home, Dad?_  
_I don’t know when. We’ll get together then. You know we’ll have a good time then . . ._

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5162 "2020-11-09T19:52:05Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Headline: “SC’s Graham says Trump should consider a 2024 run if every legal option is exhausted”.

Has he ever explained why he shifted to “tell Donald Trump to go to Hell!” and “Joe Biden is one of the finest people you’d ever meet,” to “I love this Trump guy so much.”

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5163 "2020-11-09T20:02:46Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> In the meantime, if I didn’t know any better, I would say that the republicans seem to be increasingly toying with the idea of playing constitutional hardball and urging right-leaning legislatures to select their own slate of electors.

States cannot change the rules on their electors during an election precisely to avoid shit like that. They have to go with what they have now (which differs state-to-state). If their current law allows for such a switch then they could do that. Otherwise they have to wait to change the rules.

I do not think any states allow such a drastic change at this point but I am certainly not up on all 50 state electoral laws.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5164 "2020-11-09T20:19:00Z")

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This could be fun:

> **[Trump has told advisers he’s thinking about running in 2024: report](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/525144-trump-has-told-advisers-hes-thinking-about-running-in-2024-report/)**
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> President Trump has told close advisers that he is considering running for president in the 2024 election, according to a report from Axios.Trump has yet to concede defeat to Democrat Joe Biden in …

I wouldn’t mind seeing that. Trump certainly helps turn out the blue vote. I’m not so sure he could maintain the red vote though.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5165 "2020-11-09T20:19:09Z")

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Need more context, @JohnT . The followup tweet said Barr walked right out again. Probably because Mitch wasn’t there. Barr just wanted to steal some pencils.

> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> And while we’re waiting for the significance of that to unfold, may I predict the evolution of this thread title:
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> It began as the “Election Day 2020 follow-along thread.”
> 
> It was edited to the “Election Day [Week] follow-along thread.”
> 
> I believe it will soon need to become the “Election Day [Weeks] follow-along thread.”
> 
> Somewhere in there it is certain to top 10k posts, so we’ll need “Return of the Election Day [Weeks] follow-along thread” or “Election Day [Weeks] follow-along thread Part 2.”
> 
> Let us hope it never becomes [Months], but I am not so sure.

“Election Day 2020: A Clusterfuck in the Making”

🤦🏽‍♀️

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5166 "2020-11-09T20:28:12Z")

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And now McConnell is backing Trumpism that he should be able to exhaust the legal process before conceding and “the Constitution gives no role in this process of wealthy media corporations”.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5167 "2020-11-09T20:29:29Z")

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I’m still not sure that’s the best way forward. Ideally, we all want the source of the misinformation to stop; mocking them won’t accomplish that. And no matter how well-meaning you are with your family, saying “the guy who told you that is stupid” carries the unspoken follow-up “…and you were stupid to believe them”.

I’m not prefect, and I’ve fallen for lies I shouldn’t have. I don’t want to be laughed at; just give me a path to be a little smarter tomorrow than I am today.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5168 "2020-11-09T20:32:14Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I think the election is over, but the matter of when and under what circumstances Trump leaves office is far from settled.
> 
> In the meantime, if I didn’t know any better, I would say that the republicans seem to be increasingly toying with the idea of playing constitutional hardball and urging right-leaning legislatures to select their own slate of electors. It seems like an outrageous idea, but nothing is outrageous to republicans anymore.

The problem with this plot is that it would take 2 or 3 states to pull it off (assuming Biden’s lead holds in Georgia and Arizona). A state legislature contradicting the will of the majority of their constituents would be political suicide, just for the glory of Trump. Getting 1 legislature to do that would be tiny; getting 2 would be infinitesimal.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5169 "2020-11-09T20:33:44Z")

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Ya know…it is fine. “Conceding” is not a legal thing. No one needs Trump to concede. It doesn’t change anything. Perhaps the transition office will drag their feet but whatever.

Trump will be shown the door on January 20 whether he concedes or not.

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