# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 260
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5190 "2020-11-09T21:55:42Z")
OK, I’m paranoid about this election and am still tracking results. I am looking at the NY Times results for PA (National Election Pool) vs. what the PS Secretary of State has on the website. NY Times has Biden with a 45k lead, but the PA site (which has 43k more votes posted) has Biden with a 31k lead. PA site lists provisional ballots separately and has Trump ahead on those 5231 to 3774 so that’s not the difference. Why the big disconnect between numbers? ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5191 "2020-11-09T21:57:54Z")
> [@susan](#): > > I shudder at the thought of VP McConnell. No - he should can Pence NOW, appoint McConnell immediately, and forget that the governor of Kentucky is a Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5192 "2020-11-09T22:02:33Z")
Do you have a link for the PA site? The site I found as a “down for maintenance” message. ETA - then that changed to a 403 error [https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/](https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/) Is this the link? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5193 "2020-11-09T22:03:37Z")
Ahh, Celebration Ale. The champagne of holiday beer. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5194 "2020-11-09T22:04:19Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > No - he should can Pence NOW, appoint McConnell immediately, and forget that the governor of Kentucky is a Democrat. Shhh! You are letting out a Deep State secret! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5195 "2020-11-09T22:07:22Z")
It was just way too fortuitous and Providence like. I went in there for champagne to celebrate, and there this beer was. Entire cases of it, so I grabbed one! Mask up everyone, or I’ll cuss you out!! ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5196 "2020-11-09T22:14:37Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Yeah, I got a little drunk angry, and that’s on me. I get it, I really do. I just didn’t believe our President Elect was being irresponsible, only mindful of history’s eyes on him. I can understand that. It’s still his fault, though. 😉 I still haven’t popped my own bottle of champagne. Not quite sure what I’m waiting for. //// Wow, not that this excuses their BS over these past many years, but apparently Fox “News” just pulled Kayleigh McEnany’s press conference asserting voter fraud off their air. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5197 "2020-11-09T22:16:13Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Wow, not that this excuses their BS over these past many years, but apparently Fox “News” just pulled Kayleigh McEnany’s press conference asserting voter fraud off their air. Video here. [https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1325917802457391107](https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1325917802457391107) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5198 "2020-11-09T22:18:36Z")
This Dr. Seuss book, which has been used in the past to encourage politicians who have overstayed their welcome to leave, is highly appropriate here. [![](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71dKaFzNryL.jpg) ](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71dKaFzNryL.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5199 "2020-11-09T22:24:09Z")
Et tu Faux? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5200 "2020-11-09T22:25:03Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > defending Biden as not a pedophile Whereas [Trump hung around half-dressed teen models](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/a-timeline-of-donald-trumps-creepiness-while-he-owned-miss-universe-191860/) and is on record as suggesting he would date Ivanka if she weren’t his daughter. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5201 "2020-11-09T22:27:43Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Oh, and by the way…fuck McConnell. I hate that goddam bastard more than any human I have ever known. This. So **very** much this. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5202 "2020-11-09T22:27:46Z")
This clip from the same film is also a propos. “Those you-know-what’s, they’re all scary and violent, with no regard for life!” “Sit down, shut up, and never say another word.” (paraphrased). [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/TXlHKTPfLVA/maxresdefault.jpg "12 Angry Men (8/10) Movie CLIP - These People (1957) HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXlHKTPfLVA) ---
**Author:** ![tingbudong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tingbudong/32/520_2.png) [@tingbudong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tingbudong)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5203 "2020-11-09T22:31:18Z")
> Apparently a whistleblower saw a Biden-Harris van pull up at the back door of one of the vote counting centers. The doors opened and Democrats started opening ballots with letter openers, changing the votes and resealing them. > They aren’t even pretending that their supporters have brains anymore. Even within the “world of making shit up” it is scary to think that this is literally all it takes now to energize the base. I mean, they aren’t even trying to make remotely plausible lies anymore. It’s a sad day for the art of lying. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5204 "2020-11-09T22:34:59Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Do you have a link for the PA site? The site I found as a “down for maintenance” message. > > ETA - then that changed to a 403 error > > [https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/](https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/) Is this the link? That’s the site. I checked again and fewer votes are posted and Biden is back up to A 45K lead. Hopefully mis-keyed data that they had to pull back down. I can go back to worrying about AZ, where the lead is down to 15k. Where the hell is the data from Pima County? ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5205 "2020-11-09T22:37:58Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@jsc1953](#): > > > > Oh, and by the way…fuck McConnell. I hate that goddam bastard more than any human I have ever known. > > This. So **very** much this. The second part, not the first part, unless it is Trump and McConnell. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5206 "2020-11-09T22:38:31Z")
> [@tingbudong](#): > > > Apparently a whistleblower saw a Biden-Harris van pull up at the back door of one of the vote counting centers. The doors opened and Democrats started opening ballots with letter openers, changing the votes and resealing them. > > They aren’t even pretending that their supporters have brains anymore. > > Even within the “world of making shit up” it is scary to think that this is literally all it takes now to energize the base. > > I mean, they aren’t even trying to make remotely plausible lies anymore. > > It’s a sad day for the art of lying. “They were moving really, really fast and ‘Yakkety Sax’ was playing.” ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5207 "2020-11-09T22:38:56Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > ETA: noting that Romney, Collins, Sasse and Murkowski are the only Republicans to have acknowledged Biden’s victory… I doubt they will switch sides, but they are sending a king-sized warning to McConnell that the grip on his caucus may not be as firm as McConnell hopes. It would be enough for these 4 to vote with the Dems to allow Biden to fill his cabinet. Mitch’s power is less sure than it was before, I think. And we’ve got to put everything we have into winning those 2 Georgia Senate seats. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5208 "2020-11-09T22:43:16Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I doubt they will switch sides, but they are sending a king-sized warning to McConnell that the grip on his caucus may not be as firm as McConnell hopes. It would be enough for these 4 to vote with the Dems to allow Biden to fill his cabinet. Mitch’s power is less sure than it was before, I think. Oooo…liking this. I should just stop reading the board right now, because that gives me a happy feeling. Seriously, I have a hard time believing that every single Republican Senator is happy to be onboard the McConnell Power Train. Some of them have got to be weary of, not to mention embarrassed by, the work that’s been left undone for the last 12 years. > [@](#): > > And we’ve got to put everything we have into winning those 2 Georgia Senate seats. I sent the Democratic candidate $100 and promptly started getting three emails per day from his campaign, so I unsubscribed. But good luck to him! ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5209 "2020-11-09T22:43:51Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > This clip from the same film is also a propos. “Those you-know-what’s, they’re all scary and violent, with no regard for life!” “Sit down, shut up, and never say another word.” (paraphrased). > > [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TXlHKTPfLVA](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TXlHKTPfLVA) Also relevant: The character who tells him to “Sit down and never open your mouth again” is (at that point) _on the same side_ - voting guilty - but not wanting support for his POV from a racist. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=259) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=261)