# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5210 "2020-11-09T22:52:15Z")

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I’m honestly dubious how much use the transition office will be even if they agree to start the process.

Seriously, I think Trump will do any petty thing he can to cause Biden and his new administration trouble.

As such I think Biden just needs to do his thing and not rely on the Trump admin at all.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5211 "2020-11-09T22:54:10Z")

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> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> I can go back to worrying about AZ, where the lead is down to 15k. Where the hell is the data from Pima County?

Trump would need better than 60% of the remaining ballots. With Pima county being the biggest batch of uncounted ballots, that will be exceedingly difficult. It’s not a sure thing yet, but it’s getting close.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5212 "2020-11-09T22:54:30Z")

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Absolutely. They should call up the corresponding officials from the Obama administration for help instead - I am sure the vast majority of them will do everything they can to assist.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5213 "2020-11-09T22:56:38Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Seriously, I have a hard time believing that every single Republican Senator is happy to be onboard the McConnell Power Train. Some of them have got to be weary of, not to mention embarrassed by, the work that’s been left undone for the last 12 years.

They are. If they form a solid block and begin to chip away at McConnell’s fierce grip, they will break it. Romney’s comments today included his concerns about how history will view each senator’s role in this shocking bid for authoritarian rule. He’s won’t stand among the damned, I don’t believe.

Also saw news where Utah’s Republican governor just imposed a mask mandate, saying something to the effect that this madness has to stop.

And good onya, @ThelmaLou, for doing your part for Georgia’s new senators! I’ve joined you and any additional political spam that lands in my inbox for it will just be a drop in an already overfull ocean…

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**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5214 "2020-11-09T23:00:11Z")

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> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> I can go back to worrying about AZ, where the lead is down to 15k. Where the hell is the data from Pima County?

I mentioned a concern along the same lines back in post 4871 on Saturday night but it didn’t generate any discussion that I noticed.

I was hoping to get talked off the ledge, since Predictit (even as of this very moment 5pm Central) has Trump’s chances of winning as:

[Pennsylvania a terrifying 16%](https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5543/Which-party-will-win-Pennsylvania-in-the-2020-presidential-election)

[Georgia 17%](https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5604/Which-party-will-win-Georgia-in-the-2020-presidential-election)

[Arizona 17%](https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5596/Which-party-will-win-Arizona-in-the-2020-presidential-election)

[Michigan 11%](https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5545/Which-party-will-win-Michigan-in-the-2020-presidential-election)

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5215 "2020-11-09T23:01:42Z")

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A very fitting hiccup in Trump’s plan to contest the election: David Bossie, the guy tasked with overseeing the campaign’s legal challenges, has tested positive for COVID. Sometimes the universe gets it right.

> **[Trump adviser overseeing campaign legal challenges gets coronavirus, sources...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/david-bossie-coronavirus/index.html)**
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> An adviser for President Donald Trump's campaign, David Bossie, has tested positive for coronavirus only days after he was tapped to oversee the campaign's legal challenges contesting the outcome of the election, two sources confirmed to CNN.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5216 "2020-11-09T23:05:34Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> If they form a solid block and begin to chip away at McConnell’s fierce grip, they will break it.

Sadly I do not think this is possible.

The republican party is ace at enforcing loyalty to the party. You either toe-the-line, always, or you are out. It does not matter who you are or how long you have been a good republican you will be hung-out to dry on the spot if you dare to go against the leadership.

Remember John Bolton, Trump’s super-hawk national security adviser? The guy was made from pure conservatism. Hell, he was probably more conservative than most in congress and the Trump White House. But he crossed Trump, was fired and then thoroughly raked over the coals as a liberal stooge by conservatives. Never mind his 40 years being anything but a liberal anything.

And that all happened in the span of a few days. Just _boom_…you’re out.

Why anyone would want to belong to such a group where one misstep gets you crucified is beyond me but obviously many do.

Anyway, I don’t think they will allow any room for dissent from the ranks.

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5217 "2020-11-09T23:06:36Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> They are. If they form a solid block and begin to chip away at McConnell’s fierce grip, they will break it. Romney’s comments today included his concerns about how history will view each senator’s role in this shocking bid for authoritarian rule. He’s won’t stand among the damned, I don’t believe.

I’ll believe it when I see it. So far, the moderate Republicans seem to be focused on rhetoric, which is important, but is a criticism tailored to prevent them from having to commit to anything important. When republicans only criticize rhetoric I think it speaks to the fact that they want people like McConnell to take the bullets for them.

Also, as we saw in 2009-2010, when the Republicans have exactly enough votes to reach some important threshold, it can be a great team-building exercise for them. They know they have to unite behind McConnell and there are no free votes so they stop jockeying to be the Colllins/Murkowski that can break with the party.

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5218 "2020-11-09T23:07:32Z")

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Could it be Biden betters hedging their wins, just in case it gets to the Supreme Court and what we all feared actually happens?

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5219 "2020-11-09T23:11:10Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> may I predict the evolution of this thread title:
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> It began as the “Election Day 2020 follow-along thread.”
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> It was edited to the “Election Day [Week] follow-along thread.”
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> I believe it will soon need to become the “Election Day [Weeks] follow-along thread.”
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> Somewhere in there it is certain to top 10k posts, so we’ll need “Return of the Election Day [Weeks] follow-along thread” or “Election Day [Weeks] follow-along thread Part 2.”
> 
> Let us hope it never becomes [Months], but I am not so sure.

At what point does it become the New Administration Follow-Along Thread?

Not until Trump concedes or Biden’s inaugurated? Or are we waiting for the Georgia senate runoffs? or for Alaska, Georgia, Nevada, and North Carolina to all finish their first counts? or for the proposed recounts and court cases all to be either finished or officially declared not going to happen?

> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> I think they were just ordering camera equipment from a Jewish-run store in New York.

???!

Would you have mentioned that they were a Christian-run store if they were?

> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Romney, Collins, Sasse and Murkowski are the only Republicans to have acknowledged Biden’s victory…wouldn’t it be cool if Schumer was lobbying them to switch sides?

Ooooh, that’s a fun thing to think about.

Considering that three out of four of them wind up voting with Trump every time it matters and all four of them much of the time, though, I doubt there’s any real chance.

> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> It would be enough for these 4 to vote with the Dems to allow Biden to fill his cabinet.

Nope. Not if McConnell is in charge; he just won’t bring it to the floor, and they’ll get no chance to vote.

They’d have to _caucus_ with the Dems, which would put McConnell out of that position. But to do that I believe they’d have to declare that they’re no longer Republicans (they wouldn’t have to switch to D, they could declare they’re independents.) That’s a much bigger leap than just going against their party on a specific vote.

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5220 "2020-11-09T23:12:39Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Did the alleged mystery van have the freaking campaign logo on the side, or something. Jeez these Trumpers.

The bright yellow windbreakers emblazoned with DEMOCRAT FRAUD SQUAD may have provided a hint.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5221 "2020-11-09T23:13:36Z")

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HOLY SHIT!!! He just conceded!!!

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5222 "2020-11-09T23:14:26Z")

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Whoa!

No way!

(I believe you but, No way!)

EDIT: I can find nothing on it…I must see!

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5223 "2020-11-09T23:15:29Z")

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Cite??? No news alerts have popped up on my phone yet. pleezpleezpleez…

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5224 "2020-11-09T23:16:05Z")

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Where??

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5225 "2020-11-09T23:16:59Z")

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Waitwaitwaitwait, not sure – there’s a big banner on MSNBC, “Breaking News, Trump Goes Quietly In Defeat” – and that may be misleading.

ETA: It showed Trump speaking in front of a podium with the banner, but now I’m not seeing anything definitive.

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5226 "2020-11-09T23:17:45Z")

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Well, he just tweeted about Michigan election fraud so…

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5227 "2020-11-09T23:17:56Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Would you have mentioned that they were a Christian-run store if they were?

Sorry. They’re just so famously run by Hasidic Jews — everyone who works in the store. It’s quite distinctive. In this case, I promise, it was just a way of giving some interesting detail to the outfit, to make the little joke more realistic, like saying “the Met Life building, right on top of Grand Central Station,” or “Cirque du Soleil, the French Canadian performance troupe”. Otherwise for non-New Yorkers it might seem like just a random store with those two letters like Biden and Harris’, rather than a beloved and distinctive institution that plausibly would have a delivery truck there.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5228 "2020-11-09T23:18:13Z")

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Yeah. CNN and MSNBC just have normal programming, no bulletins.

(That’s the nice thing about working from home - i can just get up and go turn on the TV.)

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5229 "2020-11-09T23:18:14Z")

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What are the odds of Trump winning all four, and also Wisconsin?

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