# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 263
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5250 "2020-11-10T00:00:21Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > You all are being very kind, and I appreciate it. I feel like 2 cents waiting for change. Okay, get over here for your lashes with the proverbial wet noodle. Ten, no … make it 25. There, now you have been punished and can dispense with the guilt, as the world has been restored to balance, at least this tiny corner of it… Go in peace. And ferchrissakes, don’t you EVER!!! do that again! ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5251 "2020-11-10T00:04:23Z")
Given the obstruction of the current Administration, I wanted to see when this will well and truly be over. Apparently, states can officially start certifying votes tomorrow, so look for states with completed counts and no controversies to start certifying soon. December 8 is the “safe harbor” deadline for states to get their final electors in. The only state that has a certifying deadline later than this is California, which for some reason has a December 11 deadline but it’s California, so they will likely certify way before then. Of course, the electoral college votes on 12/14. I would say, assuming that all of the legal challenges will fail, Trump should be expected to either concede or formally stage a coup by 12/8. I personally think that the Republicans will pressure him to concede, and he will immediately start running for 2024. Its a way for him to keep having rallies to stroke his ego with the additional benefit that he won’t have to even pretend to work. All he will have to do is golf, tweet, hold rallies and pander to his base (pretty much what he does now). ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5252 "2020-11-10T00:04:27Z")
Sorry! ---
**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5253 "2020-11-10T00:07:23Z")
> [@squidfood](#): > > Do we know if this includes the sequestered late-arriving ballots? Missed the edit window, found in a Bloomberg article the numbers are 7,800 (with a few unnamed counties not reporting, could be big ones I suppose) and not included in the current 45K lead. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5254 "2020-11-10T00:08:43Z")
> [@squidfood](#): > > Missed the edit window, found in a Bloomberg article the numbers are 7,800 (with a few unnamed counties not reporting, could be big ones I suppose) and not included in the current 45K lead. And what of the 100,000+ provisional ballots? ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5255 "2020-11-10T00:08:54Z")
> [@squidfood](#): > > Do we know if this includes the sequestered late-arriving ballots? Last I heard that number was low (\<5,000) and they were being “counted” but I’m not finding any info on whether they’re included in the count or whether there were more than that in the end. I don’t think it does. The PA website lists the number of mail ballots left by county and suggests the numbers were submitted on election day then goes on to say “counties may continue to accept ballots that are postmarked by November 3, 2020… etc etc” UPDATE: Trump has taken another 412 off Biden’s lead in Arizona with a whopping 85.8% of votes cast in a new dump of 576 votes. Biden will be looking forward to those remaining Pima County numbers. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5256 "2020-11-10T00:09:41Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Were you at least drunk? How I wish I could say I was. Sober as a goat. > [@CairoCarol](#): > > And ferchrissakes, don’t you EVER!!! do that again! I won’t!!! Believe me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5257 "2020-11-10T00:11:45Z")
I’m beginning to think republicans won’t pressure him to concede, not until it’s over in the minds of his supporters, and that could be a while. But republicans want to delegitimize the democrats, and since they’ve been getting away with authoritarianism and conspiracy theories for the last decade, why stop now? It’s just going to get worse. Trump lost, but the only way the madness stops is if the republicans lose Herbert Hoover style. Until that time comes, it’ll be the rare ‘good’ or ‘statesman’ republican that we rely on to step forward and put the rest of the party in check. ---
**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5258 "2020-11-10T00:15:21Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > And what of the 100,000+ provisional ballots? The PA SOS website is showing a grand total of 15 remaining unprocessed provisionals. But oddly enough it’s only showing 13,309 provisionals altogether (counted and uncounted) so I don’t know if a big chuck is still unrecorded, or if that 100K was a big overestimate. ---
**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5259 "2020-11-10T00:23:07Z")
> [@squidfood](#): > > But oddly enough it’s only showing 13,309 provisionals altogether (counted and uncounted) so I don’t know if a big chuck is still unrecorded, or if that 100K was a big overestimate. Looking closer, county by county shows none in that 13K number for Philly or Allegheny. So a lot missing. Still, I think they’re being folded in as they’re counted not being set aside for a big final report? But not at all sure. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5260 "2020-11-10T00:31:25Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I’m beginning to think republicans won’t pressure him to concede, not until it’s over in the minds of his supporters, and that could be a while. At the very least I think it is more likely than not that there will be no concessions offered before all the votes and recounts are done and everything is certified in late November/early December. By that point most of the spurious legal challenges will likely have been tossed and I think a steadily growing number of Republicans will be willing to move on. I don’t know if it will be a slow drip of defections or a floodgate. But despite all the apocalyptic coup scenarios, I think the most probable outcome is that Trump is finally forced to grudgingly concede in some incredibly graceless fashion. He will of course continue to grumble about how he was cheated as he’s headed out the door and until the day he dies. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5261 "2020-11-10T00:39:05Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > he will immediately start running for 2024. Its a way for him to keep having rallies to stroke his ego with the additional benefit that he won’t have to even pretend to work. All he will have to do is golf, tweet, hold rallies and pander to his base (pretty much what he does now). And defend lawsuits – \ In other news, I think the Georgia incumbent R senators may be seriously afraid that they’re going to lose their runoffs. [Georgia’s Republican U.S. Senators Call On GOP State Election Chief To Resign](https://www.npr.org/2020/11/09/933182112/republican-georgia-senators-call-on-republican-state-election-chief-to-resign) > Georgia’s two Republican U.S. senators are calling on the state’s top election official — also a Republican — to resign Monday after alleging “too many failures in Georgia elections this year” but without mentioning specifics to support their claims. [. . .] > > In a lengthy statement, Raffensperger hit back at the senators’ release, saying he would not be resigning and calling the accusations of a lack of transparency “laughable.” ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5262 "2020-11-10T00:50:47Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > > Seriously, I have a hard time believing that every single Republican Senator is happy to be onboard the McConnell Power Train. Some of them have got to be weary of, not to mention embarrassed by, the work that’s been left undone for the last 12 years. > > They are. If they form a solid block and begin to chip away at McConnell’s fierce grip, they will break it. Romney’s comments today included his concerns about how history will view each senator’s role in this shocking bid for authoritarian rule. He’s won’t stand among the damned, I don’t believe. This is a fundamental misreading of McConnell’s relationship with his caucus. They LOVE him, because he does everything he can to protect each and every one of them. He’s more than happy to let Collins and Murkowski break with him on key votes to show their “independence,” knowing that it’s good for them back home and that it usually won’t change the outcome. The only vote where he really got shocked by the outcome was the ACA repeal, and what did he do after that? Banish Collins and Murkowski from the caucus? Nope, he continued to support them and it paid off when he go them onboard with the Kavanaugh vote. And of course the question Republicans would face if they did ditch Mitch is who would replace him. Cornyn? Thune? Could they do a better job of holding together a caucus that includes Rand Paul and Susan Collins? Honestly, I’d be surprised if a single Republican Senator opposes McConnell’s reappointment as Majority Leaders. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5263 "2020-11-10T01:17:55Z")
So this happened (full title is: **Fox News Cuts Away From Trump’s Press Secretary, Says It Can’t Air ‘False Claims’ in Good Conscience** ): > **[Fox News Cuts Away From Trump's Press Secretary Over 'False Claims' Made](https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-cuts-away-trumps-press-secretary-says-it-cant-air-false-claims-good-conscience-1546155)** > > The president was previously cut off from the conservative-leaning news network on Thursday evening. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5264 "2020-11-10T01:36:37Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > So this happened (full title is: **Fox News Cuts Away From Trump’s Press Secretary, Says It Can’t Air ‘False Claims’ in Good Conscience** ): Neil Cavuto, I think? I can’t believe it, but he has become a sort of voice of reason over there. It’s very dangerous to air these things. Loonies are watching and feeding off it. ---
**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5265 "2020-11-10T01:37:23Z")
Well _ **now** _ we know what Barr was up to: > **[Barr OKs investigations of voting irregularities despite lack of evidence of...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/09/barr-oks-justice-dept-election-probes-despite-lack-fraud-evidence/6229191002/)** > > Attorney General William Barr has authorized U.S. attorneys to pursue "substantial allegations" of voting irregularities during the 2020 elections, contradicting longstanding Justice Department practice of not taking steps that could impact the... > **[Barr clears Justice Dept. to investigate alleged voting irregularities as...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-voting-fraud-william-barr-justice-department/2020/11/09/d57dbe98-22e6-11eb-8672-c281c7a2c96e_story.html)** > > The move reverses long-standing Justice Department policy and is likely to draw criticism for fueling the president’s so far unfounded assertions. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5266 "2020-11-10T01:41:51Z")
Buckle up. Hang on tight to your democracy! ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5267 "2020-11-10T01:49:00Z")
He cut away fast, too. I’ve flipped through the first two horrid evening hosts, and I think they’ve reined them in a bit. They’re doing “bad polls suppress votes” and raving about their Senate wins and ranting about AOC and left wing mobs, but they are staying far away from “stolen election” -Tucker did talk about the Detroit lawsuit, but no rhetoric and someone even made them say it was based solely on the affidavits of a few people. Good for them for not actively enabling sedition, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5268 "2020-11-10T02:10:33Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Good for them for not actively enabling sedition, I guess. - Baby steps. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5269 "2020-11-10T02:21:41Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > There, now you have been punished and can dispense with the guilt, as the world has been restored to balance, at least this tiny corner of it… Go in peace. And ferchrissakes, don’t you EVER!!! do that again! Junior modding at its best! 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=262) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=264)