# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5390 "2020-11-11T00:03:25Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> All these various scenarios is why I hope Biden is holding off on his “46th President of the U.S.” business cards. He could end up anywhere from 46th to 48th, with Pence and/or Pelosi sandwiched in between.

Ha! True. Trump could still blow an aneurysm or have a heart attack due to his inability to process the election results. And, he could still resign as part of a plan to have Pence pardon him.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5391 "2020-11-11T00:03:35Z")

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Latest voting update:

**Pennsylvania**  
Thought I’d delay the update to the moment Biden had more of a lead in PA than there are estimated ballots left to count and that just happened. Biden now has a lead of 45,673 with 44,800 estimated votes remaining.

**Alaska**  
No new results so far today but there should be more shortly. In fact AK said they would count mail in votes and absentee ballots a week after the election (because of reasons). However Trump has a 54,598 vote lead with an estimated 175,000 ballots left to count so Biden needs 66.3% of what’s remaining. Unlikely.

**Arizona**  
Biden’s lead is now 14,213. Trump has been whittling this down all day however he’s rarely gotten above the percentage he’s needed to catch up. There are an estimated 44,874 ballots left to count and Trump needs 65.1% of these. Today Trump has been getting only around 57.5%.

**Georgia**  
Dribs and drabs coming in now, the counting is pretty much over. Biden’s lead has been eeked out to 12,671 which makes a turnover from the upcoming recount vanishingly unlikely.

**Nevada**  
Okay this has been called but I’ll still include it. Biden’s lead is 36,726 with 64,394 left to count. There have only been two relatively small counts recorded today both heavily in favour of the President Elect.

**North Carolina**  
Trump’s probably going to win this one. Biden’s been catching up as the shape of the count is largely the same as in PA and GA however Trump’s lead is 74,870 and Biden needs 70.3% of the remaining 186k ballots to go his way. He’s generally been averaging 63/64% in these latter stages. The slight doubt here is that a lot of the remaining votes are coming from urban areas so it could be that Biden gets a really overwhelming amount in a couple of these.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5392 "2020-11-11T00:05:51Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> Latest voting update:

Thank you for that update summary.

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5393 "2020-11-11T00:07:40Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> The slight doubt here is that a lot of the remaining votes are coming from urban areas so it could be that Biden gets a really overwhelming amount in a couple of these.

Thanks for the update, and the percents needed on all the states. I’m still keeping my fingers crossed for NC, even if it’s a long shot.  
It would be so great if it happens.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5394 "2020-11-11T00:09:35Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> Latest voting update:

Another Thank You for the Update from me.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5395 "2020-11-11T00:22:16Z")

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If you had to guess, what percent chance are we at that Trump will be _alive_ on January 21 2021?

I’d say about 98%. But I see a real possibility that he will either kill himself, or go postal and get taken down.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5396 "2020-11-11T00:27:51Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> " Ballot Corruption will be exposed tonight at 9:00pmE on [@SeanHannity](https://twitter.com/seanhannity) on [@FoxNews](https://twitter.com/FoxNews)!"

Oh, Fuck! I never watch that channel. Perhaps the so-called president could inform the American citizenry of this crucial information through some official, accountable method. Anyone know if that’s in the works?

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5397 "2020-11-11T00:27:54Z")

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I don’t think narcissists tend to kill themselves. In his mind it’s everyone else’s fault. He will never have the self - insight to blame himself.

Going postal, that I can see. I think he’s already unhinged so I expect it to get much worse.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5398 "2020-11-11T00:33:05Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> I just can’t see any of them being stupid enough to jeopardize their careers, which will so definitely happen if they switch a decision.

_Careers_? Hell, if the GOP pulled that crap, we’d roll out the tumbrels and oil up the guillotines.

Same if a faithless elector changed the results.

Unless the recounts and outstanding ballots take a weird turn, Biden is President Elect, and that is it.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5399 "2020-11-11T00:33:41Z")

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I agree that he won’t kill himself. Its not his fault, he’s certainly not the unworthy one here. I like to imagine him stroking out while watching Biden being sworn in, but that probably won’t happen either.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5400 "2020-11-11T00:35:37Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> I agree that’s most likely. Remember folks keep going into McConnell’s office before making this crazy-ass statements. Maybe he’s filling them in on the playbook. But there is a small, small chance that **he** really thinks there is enough smoke around these ridiculous accusations that they can pull off the legislative override option.

My bold.

Does this “he” refer to McConnell? I hate that man but he is no idiot. Surely you’re not saying that Mitch thinks there’s a chance Biden’s election can be overturned??

The fact that people are spending a few minutes in Father Mitch’s confessional and _then_ making their statements tells me that Mitch is definitely filling them in on the playbook. But the fact that he is orchestrating everything and pulling all the strings, does not IMHO necessarily mean that he believes the election can be overturned.

> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Latest Trump tweet:
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> " Ballot Corruption will be exposed tonight at 9:00pmE on [@SeanHannity](https://twitter.com/seanhannity) on [@FoxNews](https://twitter.com/FoxNews)!"

Will someone take one for the team and watch this please?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5401 "2020-11-11T00:39:58Z")

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I suspect we’ll see a lot more Republicans abandon Trump and his ridiculous attempt to sue his way back into the presidency on January 6. I’m guessing many of them don’t want him to shit all over the Georgia runoff elections. If they abandon him now, he’ll set the whole Republican party on fire and let the Senate go down with him. Humoring him now allows them to keep his worse impulses tamed until after they’ve locked down the Senate.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5402 "2020-11-11T00:40:46Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> Latest voting update:

Another Thank You from me.

But can ANYBODY explain why Arizona is taking so long to count the ballots? Seems likes they’re only counting about 10k a day.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5403 "2020-11-11T00:41:08Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> If they abandon him now, he’ll set the whole Republican party on fire and let the Senate go down with him.-

That’s one DJT activity that I could get behind. 👍🏽

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5404 "2020-11-11T00:41:27Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> Yes. And it’s made even worse by the fact that many of those half-measures were designed _specifically_ to limit democracy and to provide equal (and some cases more than equal) political voice to states whose primary goal _at the time_ was to continue the institution of slavery.

Nope. Just the opposite. The smaller, lower populations states were mostly in the North.

Delaware, Rhode island, Kentucky, Georgia, Vermont, Maine, New Hampshire, New jersey, Conn- 9 smallest states by population.

Virginia, Pennsylvania, North carolina had the most. It was to make sure the smaller population states didnt get bulldozed. Virginia had nearly twice the pop of any other state.

Now, yes the 3/5th compromise was there solely to benefit the South. But the Senate and Electoral college was the help the smaller states and of course property owners.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5405 "2020-11-11T00:41:43Z")

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Hey, George is doing as well as he can, is it his fault an entire state only has one counter?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5406 "2020-11-11T00:42:38Z")

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_All of them._

Mind you- keep counting those votes, and if the results trigger the automatic recount, that much be done.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5407 "2020-11-11T00:43:56Z")

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The expose is: the chairman of the FEC says that since PA observers were not allowed to get closer than 6’ there must have been fraud going on.  
Seriously.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5408 "2020-11-11T00:45:02Z")

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Definitely higher than 0%, but not much. What are the ways that this could happen? Many involve the Supreme Court, such as a conspiracy of 5 Supreme justices who are “in the bag” for Trump, willing to eschew democracy forever, to help him rise to king. As others have said, do 5 justices really want this to happen? Even those justices that might typically lean toward some originalist argument in favor of Trump would likely swing the other way to prevent a breakdown of society. Another way is if there really was widespread election fraud of some kind, in favor of Biden, but that would need to involve a much larger conspiracy of people, or some technological fraud that isn’t easily detectable. I’d say the Supreme Court route is far more likely, but even that is small.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5409 "2020-11-11T00:52:48Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> I’d say the Supreme Court route is far more likely, but even that is small.

Gorsuch and Roberts have signalled strongly that they are not trumps bum boys. Kavanaugh is, of course, and maybe Barrett.

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