# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 271
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5410 "2020-11-11T00:53:30Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > **Alaska** > No new results so far today but there should be more shortly. In fact AZ said they would count mail in votes and absentee ballots a week after the election (because of reasons). However Trump has a 54,598 vote lead with an estimated 175,000 ballots left to count so Biden needs 66.3% of what’s remaining. Unlikely. Great update. Thanks! \<\\>AZ?\<\\> ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5411 "2020-11-11T00:55:28Z")
My understanding was that the North and South, roughly speaking, had the same populations, but almost a third of the southern population were slaves. Madison certainly seemed to believe that the EC was a way to address the fact that there were far more voters in the North (because far more people were allowed to vote). So Virginia could let a much smaller portion of their population vote but still have the same clout as if everybody voted (well, all the whites + 3/5 of the slaves) Some background of my thinking here: [The Electoral College’s Racist Origins - The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/11/electoral-college-racist-origins/601918/) ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5412 "2020-11-11T01:05:20Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Yes. There will be recounts in Georgia and Wisconsin, but Biden will still prevail – recounts don’t change the outcome of races separated by more than a few hundred votes, and Biden is leading by 10,000 in each. > > And Trump will file lawsuits. They will all be thrown out. [Here’s how he’s doing in court so far (tl;dr: not well at all)](https://www.npr.org/2020/11/10/933112418/the-trump-campaign-has-had-almost-no-legal-success-this-month-heres-what-they-ve) > > People will wring their hands over the prospect of state legislatures ignoring their state’s popular vote and substituting Trump electors. The chances of that are about the same as me being crowned Queen of Romania. No state legislator would commit career suicide for Trump. Add to this list of comical failure in court the postal worker in PA who submitted a sworn affidavit that he witnessed tampering. Various Republicans, including Lindsey Graham, were touting this as PROOF POSITVE of shenanigans. And yet…now he has recanted. He didn’t witness jack shit. I suspect this will be the case in 100% of such cases. Should we have a separate thread to track all the bogus lawsuits and legal filings? I think the next month will see such an avalanche of this type of horseshit and it would be nice to have a single thread where we can keep track. ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5413 "2020-11-11T01:20:36Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > \<\>AZ?\<\> I know. I only noticed that after the edit window. Bah. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5414 "2020-11-11T01:35:24Z")
Looks like Biden’s lead in Georgia has now exceeded his lead in Arizona. If WaPo’s numbers are right GA has crept up to 14,149, while AZ has drifted down to 13,510. Go figure - I would never have guessed that Arizona would end up being more of a nail-biter than Georgia in 2020. But Biden is for sure taking the bigger of the two and both are pickups either way. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5415 "2020-11-11T01:41:12Z")
www.arizona.vote showing 19k ballots “ready for tabulation” in Maricopa County, 15k provisionals outstanding in Pima and 8k provisionals in Maricopa. 7.5k provisionals spread over 5 other counties. Plus 4k “early ballots waiting for signature verification” mostly in Maricopa and Pima. Once those 19k ballots “ready for tabulation” are reported we’ll have a better idea if Biden will hang on. Arizona is important to everyone (not just Arizonans like me) because if the calls of Arizona for Biden end up being wrong that just gives more impetus to the Trumpists, particularly the ones who showed up at Maricopa County election center armed and chanting “count the vote”. They will think they reversed the “election theft” in Arizona and will likely inspire similar groups in other states. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5416 "2020-11-11T01:43:40Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Should we have a separate thread to track all the bogus lawsuits and legal filings? Yes, please. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5417 "2020-11-11T01:56:23Z")
Ballot curing deadline in Maricopa (and most other counties) has passed (5:00PM MST today). The 4k ballots “waiting for signature verification” will be settled one way or the other. ETA: Provisional ballots cast because of missing ID also needed to be settled by 5:00PM. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5418 "2020-11-11T02:06:23Z")
5k more votes from Maricopa County, 57% Trump. Lead now 12813. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5419 "2020-11-11T02:18:45Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > > > I mean, if you want to wear such a pin fine. But no one should be called out for not wearing one since wearing one or not tells us absolutely nothing. But god help the politician who forgets their flag pin (I bet staffers have bags of them they keep wherever they go…just in case). > > “Patriotism signalling”. It’s meaningless nonsense. Not always. Sometimes it means that the signaller is a jingoistic nationalist, rather than a patriot. ---
**Author:** ![sweepkick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweepkick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweepkick)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5420 "2020-11-11T02:48:56Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Add to this list of comical failure in court the postal worker in PA who submitted a sworn affidavit that he witnessed tampering. Various Republicans, including Lindsey Graham, were touting this as PROOF POSITVE of shenanigans. And yet…now he has recanted. THEY GOT TO HIM! OH NOES!!! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5421 "2020-11-11T03:12:42Z")
> **[The Times Called Officials in Every State: No Evidence of Voter Fraud...](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/us/politics/voting-fraud.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage)** > > The president and his allies have baselessly claimed that rampant voter fraud stole victory from him. Officials contacted by The Times said that there were no irregularities that affected the outcome. Take that, you losers! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5422 "2020-11-11T03:14:46Z")
That doesn’t mean the majority of republicans are opposed to Trump’s antics, though. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5423 "2020-11-11T03:15:54Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > Cross posting from Cluserfuck. I’m sure Hannity will cover this in detail > > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/postal-worker-fabricated-ballot-pennsylvania/2020/11/10/99269a7c-2364-11eb-8599-406466ad1b8e\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/postal-worker-fabricated-ballot-pennsylvania/2020/11/10/99269a7c-2364-11eb-8599-406466ad1b8e_story.html) Even if true, by definition any ballots affected would have been received _after_ election day and in the sequestered votes which haven’t been included in the current totals. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5424 "2020-11-11T03:20:17Z")
> **[John Roberts has heard just about enough of Obamacare for one lifetime | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/politics/john-roberts-affordable-care-act-again/index.html)** > > Chief Justice John Roberts twice saved Obamacare, and he appears ready to uphold it again. But Roberts is growing weary of it all. _John Roberts has heard just about enough of Obamacare for one lifetime… [His message](http://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/politics/supreme-court-obamacare-oral-arguments/index.html) to the many parties represented at the court on Tuesday was essentially: Just stop._ _Stop asking the justices to do the work of Congress. Stop pulling the court into the partisan fracas. And perhaps especially, stop forcing this chief justice to return to the days when, as [Roberts said Tuesday](http://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/politics/transcript-scotus-obamacare/index.html), “we spent all that time talking about broccoli.”_ Another signal that Roberts is **really** fucking tired of trumps bullshit. Yes Roberts is conservative, but he puts the law first and the only thing trump does with the law is widdle on it. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5425 "2020-11-11T03:30:15Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > 5k more votes from Maricopa County, 57% Trump. Lead now 12813. I can’t fucking stand this! Those late votes shouldn’t be for him, he told his people to not do mail in. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5426 "2020-11-11T03:30:21Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > > > And, here’s the latest fraud claim. Apparently a whistleblower saw a Biden-Harris van pull up at the back door of one of the vote counting centers. The doors opened and Democrats started opening ballots with letter openers, changing the votes and resealing them. > > They aren’t even pretending that their supporters have brains anymore. > > Did the alleged mystery van have the freaking campaign logo on the side, or something. Jeez these Trumpers. Yup. And the little kobolds inside changing the ballots looked like Oompah-Loompas, except they were blue. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5427 "2020-11-11T03:39:17Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Stop asking the justices to do the work of Congress. Stop pulling the court into the partisan fracas. Quote by John Roberts. To which I say, “YES!!” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5428 "2020-11-11T03:59:07Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > > [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > > > Latest voting update: > > Thank you for that update summary. Aye; your update summaries have been excellent, **FA** : succinct and replete with info. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5429 "2020-11-11T04:15:02Z")
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