# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5490 "2020-11-11T20:18:46Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> I disagree. Sometimes there are _legitimate_ challenges to the result. The best example is probably the matter of the chads in the 2000 election. The matter was heard on December 11th, and decided on December 12th. By your plan, Bush would have already been sworn in and no challenge possible.

The very slowness of this process, though, is encouraged by the long lead times.

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5491 "2020-11-11T20:20:25Z")

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Oh wow. I’d forgotten about that. That cite should be the only response necessary to anyone saying Obama never faced tough questions.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5492 "2020-11-11T20:22:15Z")

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> [@YamatoTwinkie](#):
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> Heck, Obama once took on _the entire House GOP at their invitation_ , with [an hour of televised Q&A](https://www.c-span.org/video/?291730-1/presidential-remarks-house-republican-conference). He did so well that (at least according to reports), GOP aides admitted that letting cameras in the room was a mistake.

No wonder they hated that uppity, too-big-for-his-britches, Black, Hahvahd grad, Law Review, Kenyan, Muslim, non-citizen. He made them feel stupid.

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**Author:** ![YamatoTwinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@YamatoTwinkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YamatoTwinkie)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5493 "2020-11-11T20:26:57Z")

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I remember watching it the first time and just being like "dude is straight up _enjoying_ this. "

I don’t think they invited him back.

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5494 "2020-11-11T20:30:45Z")

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The gap between election and inauguration is necessary for the transition - giving the incoming administration time to get everything up to speed so things can run smoothly starting inauguration day. The time as it is is barely sufficient even when transition starts the day after the election; I’ve heard reasonable arguments that a contributing factor to 9/11 was the the Bush administration didn’t get up to speed fast enough since the transition was delayed until Bush v. Gore was decided.

Fortunately we elected the only person who has spent enough time inside an administration (except maybe Al Gore and the cyborg Disk Cheney) to be able to handle a transition that will start late due to the willful malfeasance of the outgoing administration.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5495 "2020-11-11T20:32:57Z")

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I hope so.  
I love [goulash](https://www.thespruceeats.com/thmb/FlG1dsAgIBP-FynmjpSxEpFP_lk=/2144x2144/smart/filters:no_upscale()/easy-hungarian-goulash-recipe-1805923-hero-01-0dd1f354032a41dd82b6e807b0161e6b.jpg)!

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5496 "2020-11-11T20:33:38Z")

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Rudy’s going to have a major press conference at the Waldorf-Astoria - Ooops…correction, it’s going to be at the Walmart in Astoria.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5497 "2020-11-11T20:36:19Z")

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Quick, google ‘[loser.com](http://loser.com)’, pretty funny!

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5498 "2020-11-11T20:38:01Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Walmart in Astoria

_shudders_

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5499 "2020-11-11T20:41:14Z")

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Speaking of low-information voters: my MAGAt Facebook friend is posting happily today that Alaska and North Carolina have “flipped” for Trump.

This is oblivious to (a) that those states have been shaded in pink since Election Night and (b) “nuh uh! elections aren’t final until the state legislature certifies it and appoints electors!!”

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5500 "2020-11-11T20:42:04Z")

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> [@YamatoTwinkie](#):
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> I remember watching it the first time and just being like "dude is straight up _enjoying_ this. "
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> I don’t think they invited him back.

I just watched a little at a random spot (around the 57 minute mark maybe?) and they asked if he could take (paraphrasing) two more questions, if his schedule permits. He straight up said, “I’m having fun!” and was clearly comfortable and not looking to get out of it.

Watching that, I miss him so much.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5501 "2020-11-11T21:14:21Z")

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> > [@flurb](#):
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> > Republicans will be in excellent shape to take back the House in 2022 and hold it for many years to come. Moreover, they will redistrict their own state legislative districts to entrench their control and shut out opportunities for Democrats to grow their “farm team” who could ultimately help take back those Congressional seats.
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> Well now I’m back out on the ledge again. I don’t know what to DO about this. If the so-called professionals don’t know how to improve their messaging… I’m at a loss.

I do feel like this is the biggest underreported outcome from the election. What makes the Republican’s advantage going into a redistricting year so daunting is the enormous amount of data and precision software now available to Congressional mapmakers to craft maps that will maximize and entrench Republican districts.

There’s a tension in a good gerrymander – to maximize their districts, Republicans will want to spread their voters around so that they have a significant, but not overwhelming, majority in as many districts as possible. And then pack Democratic voters into a few, overwhelmingly Democratic districts. The risk is that you can miscalculate and not give yourself enough of an edge in your districts to withstand a shift in voter preferences or changing demographics in the district.

But the data and tools available to Congressional mapmakers now allow them to draw lines with laser-like precision to account for variances in voting histories, expected demographic changes in the district, etc. The result will be districts that are much more likely to vote and stay Republican for the next decade.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5502 "2020-11-11T21:32:40Z")

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> [@eschrodinger](#):
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> Watching that, I miss him so much.

He was the epitome of cool and grace under fire. No wonder big fat ignorant loser DJT hates his guts. I keep imagining the look on Don the Tub O’ Lard’s face when those pictures came out of lean, trim, strong Obama surfing.  
[![](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/03/17/22956506-7849319-Going_home_Obama_is_originally_from_Hawaii_and_spends_quite_a_lo-a-84_1578070922335.jpg) ](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/03/17/22956506-7849319-Going_home_Obama_is_originally_from_Hawaii_and_spends_quite_a_lo-a-84_1578070922335.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5503 "2020-11-11T21:46:11Z")

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They’re gonna go find Sloth and put him in charge of Covid policy.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5504 "2020-11-11T22:02:28Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> Quick, google ‘[loser.com](http://loser.com)’, pretty funny!

Love it!

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5505 "2020-11-11T22:10:59Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Yep. Question: If Trump refused to leave, would they arrest him, or just escort out?

Probably would go like this -

Secret Service agents or Federal Marshalls: Okay Mr. Trump, you’ve had plenty of time to get your things together. President Biden has been sworn in and will be here shortly. Ms. Trump and Barron are outside in the car. We can do this the easy way and you can walk out of here or we can do this the hard way. Your choice.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5506 "2020-11-11T22:23:06Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Secret Service agents or Federal Marshalls: Okay Mr. Trump, you’ve had plenty of time to get your things together. President Biden has been sworn in and will be here shortly. Ms. Trump and Barron are outside in the car. We can do this the easy way and you can walk out of here or we can do this the hard way. Your choice.

Safe to say that Melania and Barron most definitely are not waiting outside in any scenario.

Look, Trump _hates_ the White House, hates the job, will hate being reminded of it once it’s undeniably clear that he has no hope of hanging on. There won’t be an eviction.

Don’t get me wrong, I would absolutely cherish a [cell extraction video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_A3UGpfnH8&t=46s) starring at least one Trump. But I feel like our bigger concern is how much will he steal/ruin on the way out the door.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5507 "2020-11-11T22:30:16Z")

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This thread already has over 5500 posts in just 11 days, which must be some kind of record here. That said, I haven’t read any of it. I have a question that may only be relevant today:

Why have they called Arizona, but not Georgia or North Carolina. Especially NC, which has 99% of votes (or is it precincts?) reported, and a 1.4% margin for the soon-to-be-former Pres. Arizona and Georgia both show 99% reported, and both show a 0.3% lead for Biden,

My source is apparently Associated Press via Google [here](https://www.google.com/search?q=2020+presidential+election+results&rlz=1C1NDCM_enUS742US742&oq=2020+p&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0i131i433i457j69i57j0i433j0i131i433j69i60l3.2748j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8). It’s supposed to be live and was just updated.

I understand that the Republicans are doing their damnedest to delay the call in Georgia until after the Senate runoffs, but that won’t happen until January I believe, and anyway what influence do they have over AP and this “calling” process?

If you’re going to answer any of this, please Reply to this message so I get notified. I really don’t want to wade through all this to find this out. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5508 "2020-11-11T22:41:17Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Why have they called Arizona, but not Georgia

Georgia will perform a hand-counted audit (i.e.: recount) of all ballots regarding the presidential race. Everyone is presumably waiting for the results of that, which should take a couple of weeks. Not including the inevitable second – automated – recount demanded by Team Trump.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5509 "2020-11-11T22:41:37Z")

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I’ll bet he goes down to Mar-a-Lago at some point and never goes back to DC. Has Melania or a peon deal with the movers.

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