# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 276
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5510 "2020-11-11T22:43:02Z")
Cohen has predicted this; Trump won’t return to the White House after Christmas. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5511 "2020-11-11T22:54:08Z")
AP hasn’t called Arizona. And Fox called it early, which was risky - the race has been tightening since they called it, and it’s not all all a sure thing that Biden will win. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5512 "2020-11-11T23:01:21Z")
> AP hasn’t called Arizona. > And Fox called it early, which was risky - the race has been tightening since they called it, and it’s not all all a sure thing that Biden will win. The AP was among the first to call AZ, along with Fox. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5513 "2020-11-11T23:04:05Z")
Pretty sure it’s not left to Donny to pack his things. No one need direct them, apparently White House staff simply pack and box their things and deliver them to…wherever. All done by Inauguration Day, when Pres Elect’s things get brought in. I agree he’s gonna make mucho chaos and then slink off to Mara Lago and just not return. But cities may well be on afire, troops in the streets, well before then. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5514 "2020-11-11T23:05:41Z")
I don’t understand how Trump can demand a second recount in GA if they are already conducting a hand recount at his request. This seems stupid. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5515 "2020-11-11T23:06:36Z")
Sorry, I meant New York Times. > **[Presidential Election Results: Biden Wins (Published 2020)](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-president.html?action=click&pgtype=Article&state=default&module=styln-elections-2020®ion=TOP_BANNER&context=election_recirc)** > > Joseph R. Biden Jr. was elected the 46th president of the United States. See full results and maps from the 2020 presidential election. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5516 "2020-11-11T23:11:18Z")
The hand-recount was pushed by Trump, but it wasn’t a formal request by the campaign. This recount was ordered by the Secretary of State. (The lobbying by Trump and the two GA Senate candidates had nothing to do with it. /sarcasm) ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5517 "2020-11-11T23:11:34Z")
[ETA: ninja’d] No, the hand recount soon to be underway is by request of the State of Georgia. Whether Mr. Trump can ask for a second (machine) recount after a manual recount has already finished is an open legal question. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5518 "2020-11-11T23:11:51Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I don’t understand how Trump can demand a second recount in GA if they are already conducting a hand recount at his request. They’re not – GA is independently conducting an audit. When that’s done, the loser can request a second recount. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5519 "2020-11-11T23:21:02Z")
Yeah, I think that’s what’s going to happen - He still not ever going to concede but I bet he’ll “continue the fight from the winter White House”. I wonder if he’ll try to do something opposite Biden’s inauguration. Maybe while Biden is being inaugurated on the National Mall, he can have an inauguration at the Mall of America, they have escalators he can ride. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5520 "2020-11-11T23:25:39Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > he can have an inauguration at the Mall of America, they have escalators he can ride. Please don’t ever stop posting! ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5521 "2020-11-11T23:31:38Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Maybe while Biden is being inaugurated on the National Mall, he can have an inauguration at the Mall of America, they have escalators he can ride. And off to the food court afterward! Burger King AND Sbarro’s! ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5522 "2020-11-11T23:35:50Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > 5k more votes from Maricopa County, 57% Trump. Lead now 12813. Looks like another 4800 votes were posted in Arizona. Biden’s lead increased slightly to 12828. That’s at least moving in the right direction. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5523 "2020-11-11T23:39:19Z")
Looks like those are from Pima County - their estimated provisional vote total just dropped from 15k to 10k. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5524 "2020-11-11T23:40:15Z")
So how many outstanding ballots yet to count in AZ? And all they are provisional? ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5525 "2020-11-11T23:45:17Z")
Estimate for AZ Secretary of State is 40k uncounted ballots: - 15k “Ready for Tabulation” in Maricopa county - 22k provisional, 10k in Pima, 6k in Maricopa, the rest in Apache, Cochise, and Yuma - 3k “Waiting for signature verification” - not sure why these are still showing as outstanding, the deadline for signature verification was 5pm yesterday (as was the deadline for provisional ballots for missing ID at the polls). ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5526 "2020-11-11T23:48:19Z")
Some of that recent batch were the last 340 votes from Yavapai County. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5527 "2020-11-11T23:55:55Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > > [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > > > Why have they called Arizona, but not Georgia > > Georgia will perform a hand-counted audit (i.e.: recount) of all ballots regarding the presidential race. Everyone is presumably waiting for the results of that, which should take a couple of weeks. Not including the inevitable second – automated – recount demanded by Team Trump. Thank you, that makes sense. Anyone have an explanation about North Carolina? They don’t seem close enough to require a recount, and it doesn’t seem likely to me that Democrats would demand it. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5528 "2020-11-12T00:00:01Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > They absolutely would. Soldiers follow orders. The idea the US military would refuse this sort of order is a fantasy. All the military I’ve known fully understand the meaning of “chain of command”. They don’t follow orders from me. The don’t follow orders from some guy claiming to be President. The idea that the US military would come out to support a disordered chain of command is a fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5529 "2020-11-12T00:01:52Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Anyone have an explanation about North Carolina? What I’m hearing on the news for Wake County is that there are some last-minute absentee ballots to count, and that they’re still processing provisional and other ballots that require special handling (it’s been insinuated that many of these are being rejected, such as a ballot mailed in from out-of-state to an in-state relative, who then dropped it at a polling place). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=275) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=277)