# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/541 "2020-11-04T02:50:02Z")

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> [@Lantern2](#):
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> The main question is whether Biden’s loss margin is lower than 2016 and what that reveals about PA.

Well, it almost has to be because Clinton lost Ohio by eight points in 2016. Biden will lose Ohio but it won’t be by that much.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/542 "2020-11-04T02:50:12Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> I’m still worried about Virginia

I just moved back to my home state of VA from NJ. May have to move back

[MAGGIE KOERTH](https://fivethirtyeight.com/contributors/maggie-koerth/)

[NOV. 3, 9:46 PM](https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2020-election-results-coverage/293498/)

[New Jersey is on track tonight](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-new-jersey-question-1-legalize-recreational-marijuana.html) to become the 12th state to legalize recreational marijuana.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/543 "2020-11-04T02:50:47Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Fox tidbit, albeit.

Whoever wrote that has egg on their face. The current results don’t support what that article claims.

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/544 "2020-11-04T02:51:08Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> Maybe according to the people that say Florida went blue in 2000. Trump is currently ahead 56.4% to 41.7% with 45% of the vote in.

VA _always_ has a massive Republican lead when half the vote is in, and _always_ flips blue in the end. R-leaning areas are small and rural and report quickly, and D-leaning areas take forever.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/545 "2020-11-04T02:52:21Z")

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[NATE SILVER](https://fivethirtyeight.com/contributors/nate-silver/)

[NOV. 3, 9:47 PM](https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2020-election-results-coverage/293508/)

Chris Christie just said on ABC that he thinks Trump will win Ohio by 1 to 2 points. Maybe … but, if so, it’s not such a bad result for Biden in terms what it implies for other states because that’s basically what the polls showed there. If Biden loses Ohio by 1 or 2, he’s probably winning Pennsylvania, in other words.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/546 "2020-11-04T02:52:36Z")

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Biden leads in OH but Trump is closing the gap. Biden leads by 23,000 votes with 68% of the votes in.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/547 "2020-11-04T02:52:49Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> So, is Trump…errr…winning?

Well, he’s not losing. So far Trump has done much better than expected in the southeast (almost certainly winning Florida/GA/NC). But he’s doing worse than expected in Texas and Ohio, although not necessarily enough so to actually cost him those states. So the big question is which of those trends will apply to PA/MI/WI/AZ, which are the real prize. Biden is certainly underperforming projections… but he had some underperformance to give. 538 claims that the quick early call on CO is a promising sign for Biden, for what it implies in AZ.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/548 "2020-11-04T02:53:34Z")

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AZ will be key.

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**Author:** ![basefifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cdc98d/32.png) [@basefifty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/basefifty)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/549 "2020-11-04T02:53:40Z")

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Odds have moved significantly to Trump in past 30 mins

> **[2024 Presidential Election Odds: DeSantis Establishes Front-Runner Status](https://www.oddsshark.com/politics/usa-presidential-odds-futures)**
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> The red wave that many Republicans asserted was guaranteed in the 2022 U.S. midterm elections never happened. In fact, Democrats did much better than expected. You’d think the surprisingly positive result for Democrats in the midterms would...

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/550 "2020-11-04T02:54:37Z")

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Here’s one for you; Ohio keeps accepting mailed ballots until November 13, as long as they’re postmarked by today.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/551 "2020-11-04T02:54:46Z")

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I did my job.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/552 "2020-11-04T02:54:59Z")

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You come back after eight years to say that?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/553 "2020-11-04T02:55:10Z")

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I gonna go to bed right now. Cuz right now there’s still hope. I’m afraid if I wait any longer, the picture will change and I won’t be able to sleep.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/554 "2020-11-04T02:55:41Z")

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The potential surprise would be Michigan if the turnout is bad

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/555 "2020-11-04T02:55:47Z")

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I did not hear that but Hispanics are a conservative bunch. If republicans didn’t try so hard to piss them off they’d get a huge voting block.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/556 "2020-11-04T02:56:24Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> There’s a question: it sounds like, so far, it could very well be that the polls are off more than the last presidential election. If so, what, if anything, does that mean?

I think it shows the increasing difficulty of obtaining truly random samples in polling. It’s an arms race pitting fast-changing technology that results in fast-changing social behaviors on the one side versus the pollsters struggling to devise ever more sophisticated and complicated ways to extract random samples from the population.

But technology’s winning and its lead over te pollsters is increasing exponentially. Maybe the polling “anomalies” we saw in 2016 weren’t anomalies so much as the leading edge of the eventual end of “easily” obtained poll samples.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/557 "2020-11-04T02:57:05Z")

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We here out west in CA did our jobs!

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/558 "2020-11-04T02:57:22Z")

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Wisconsin is starting to report and is very close, but the different rules from state to state are such that I have no idea who should take heart from that.

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**Author:** ![basefifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cdc98d/32.png) [@basefifty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/basefifty)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/559 "2020-11-04T02:58:25Z")

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Yeah I’ll be back in another 4…

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/560 "2020-11-04T02:58:51Z")

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Who is the main guy on CNN? What’s his name? The guy in the blue suit and gray hair?

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