# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5770 "2020-11-13T15:31:31Z")

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Today is the deadline where Oklahoma Republican Senator James Lankford has said he will intervene if Biden is still not getting top-level presidential daily briefings. Other Republican senators have urged Trump to get the transition office going due to the national interests at stake, which would require him to get up off the floor where he’s been pounding his fists and holding his breath, causing him to turn an interesting shade of orange-blue, a color hitherto not seen in nature.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5771 "2020-11-13T15:34:23Z")

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Just saw this and struck me as funny:  
“Joke all you want, but Rudy is prepared to fight this all the way up to the Supreme Courtyard by Marriott”.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5772 "2020-11-13T15:36:18Z")

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> [@Deeg](#):
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> I wonder if they did it on purpose so they don’t have to make BS claims in court.

You’re not the only one:

> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Evidence that these legal briefs are really just crotchless panties to appease the orange one?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5773 "2020-11-13T15:40:29Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> One assumes they have a reputation to protect and are fed up with this bullshit.

Big firms can put up with a lot of bullshit, but they do expect to get paid on time.

Maybe it was a combination of things.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5774 "2020-11-13T15:42:25Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Big firms can put up with a lot of bullshit, but they do expect to get paid on time.

So why are they still doing bidness with Der Trumpnik who is known to stiff everyone (you know what I mean)?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5775 "2020-11-13T15:44:16Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > [@Procrustus](#):
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> > Big firms can put up with a lot of bullshit, but they do expect to get paid on time.
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> So why are they still doing bidness with Der Trumpnik who is known to stiff everyone (you know what I mean)? -

Paid up front/ retainer?

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5776 "2020-11-13T15:47:36Z")

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I’d be surprised if these firms weren’t asking for money up-front.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5777 "2020-11-13T15:52:41Z")

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This just in!!!

[![](https://www.pngitem.com/pimgs/m/388-3884332_courtyard-marriott-logo-png-graphics-transparent-png.png) ](https://www.pngitem.com/pimgs/m/388-3884332_courtyard-marriott-logo-png-graphics-transparent-png.png)

```
Given the obvious and egregious fraud perpetrated in this election,
we therefore grant Petitioner's request to vacate all alleged results of said
election, and declare Petitioner, Donald J.Trump, the winner and undisputed
champion of the Presidential Election of 2020.

                                                     It is so ordered.

This decision of the Supreme Court by Marriot is unanimous.
```

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5778 "2020-11-13T15:56:42Z")

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Careful…Trumpsters will run with that. (I love it though)

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5779 "2020-11-13T15:58:06Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I’d be surprised if these firms weren’t asking for money up-front.

They may have. But that’s usually just a down payment. When the retainer is spent, they expect it to be replenished.

For “good” clients, they might waive the retainer requirement, as an effort to to insult them. These firms were probably brought on quickly and had to start work right away. They may have been promised money in “two weeks.” If it didn’t arrive, they would pull the plug.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5780 "2020-11-13T15:59:59Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Even from a self-centered, sociopath viewpoint, I think it was wrong to run again. He could have gone out in glory if he opted out.

Agreed.  
Unfortunately for me (a big MJ fan since I lived in Chicago in the late 80s and early 90s), the first parallel that occurred to me was Jordan’s stint as a Washington Wizard. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5781 "2020-11-13T16:03:52Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> But he’s a sad angry man that will never feel a second of pleasure or peace until every last insult has been revenged and all his enemies destroyed.

Colbert said Trump is about as deep as a puddle and I agree. Hoped there was a little more there, but it turns out there is less. Just kind of a non-person, almost, it seems. A shell of a person.

Frankie Boyle, of all people, tweeted the other day that while we have little sorrow for Trump, he did begin as a little boy 70 years ago and obviously has many reasons he turned out to be such a pathetic loser of a person. We still feel somewhat bad for that little boy if we roll back time.

I don’t know, but I bet Fred Trump was a loser Father.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5782 "2020-11-13T16:05:42Z")

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Empathy to the leader of anti-empathy — that’s impressive. I’m serious — no snark intended. Healthy to reflect on that.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5783 "2020-11-13T16:07:50Z")

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I’ve often felt sorry for Trump, but it passes quickly.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5784 "2020-11-13T16:10:01Z")

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I think it’s just that his feelings are hurt and he likes the power (but not the work). It’s like Daddy rejecting him again. He feels insulted and he has to do something to ease the cognitive dissonance between his certainty that he is the most perfect president ever and the reality in front of him that he’s been voted out.

Plus being president gives him a bully pulpit, free 24/7 publicity, and free travel to rallies and golf clubs.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5785 "2020-11-13T16:11:52Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I don’t know, but I bet Fred Trump was a loser Father.

My wife read Mary Trump’s book, and she said that, even though Donald comes across as exactly the terrible person you’d expect, it’s Fred who is the real villain of the piece.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5786 "2020-11-13T16:11:59Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> > But he’s a sad angry man that will never feel a second of pleasure or peace until every last insult has been revenged and all his enemies destroyed.
> 
> Colbert said Trump is about as deep as a puddle and I agree. Hoped there was a little more there, but it turns out there is less. Just kind of a non-person, almost, it seems. A shell of a person.

That’s pretty much the conclusion put forth by Mary Trump in her book. Whether at some level of life experience it’s somehow “not his fault” is immaterial. He is evil, unbalanced, and totally self-serving with not a shred of interest in the well-being of the people he’s supposed to serve, and all of the appointees in his malignant, nepotistic administration are much the same. He’s changed politics much for the worse, done untold damage at home and abroad, and greatly demeaned the stature of the office of the president and America’s standing in the world. I have absolutely zero sympathy.

> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> I’ve often felt sorry for Trump, but it passes quickly.

Exactly this.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5787 "2020-11-13T16:17:01Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> My wife read Mary Trump’s book, and she said that, even though Donald comes across as exactly the terrible person you’d expect, it’s Fred who is the real villain of the piece.

I think he pushed Fred, Jr. so hard, Jr. drank himself to death.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5788 "2020-11-13T16:19:26Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> I’ve often felt sorry for Trump, but it passes quickly.

Evidently I’m a terrible person. I have never felt any sympathy or empathy for Donald Trump. I’ve felt annoyance, indignation, displeasure, and anger towards him, but I’ve never felt sorry for him.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5789 "2020-11-13T16:19:57Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> I’ve often felt sorry for Trump, but it passes quickly. -

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Exactly this. -

I felt sorry for Trump once. I learn from my mistakes.

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