# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/561 "2020-11-04T02:59:13Z")

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I worry that the race is close enough for Trump to attempt a stunt like declaring victory or ordering feds to interfere with counting

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/562 "2020-11-04T02:59:25Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> I gonna go to bed right now. Cuz right now there’s still hope.

That’s what I did in 2016. Afraid to do it now.

IIRC this looks more hopeful right now than 2016 did about the same time, though.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/563 "2020-11-04T02:59:37Z")

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Wouldn’t put it past him. (@asahi)

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/564 "2020-11-04T03:00:05Z")

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I think it’s definitely better than 16 but I don’t know how much

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/565 "2020-11-04T03:00:09Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> There’s a question: it sounds like, so far, it could very well be that the polls are off more than the last presidential election. If so, what, if anything, does that mean?

The polls in 2016 wqere not that far off. It’s possible the polls this year could be much weirder than that. In 2016 such misses as the polls had were fairly consistent from state to state - for instance, the rust belt all went more Trumpy than expected by around four points. Tonight though, states are reporting really weird things even compared to each other.

It may simply be that the manner of voting in 2020 and the fact some votes won’t be counted today in some states, but were already counted in others, just makes these results weirder than they will end up being.

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**Author:** ![Lantern2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lantern2/32/3010_2.png) [@Lantern2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern2)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/566 "2020-11-04T03:00:23Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> > [@AK84](#):
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> > So, is Trump…errr…winning?
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> Well, he’s not losing. So far Trump has done much better than expected in the southeast (almost certainly winning Florida/GA/NC). But he’s doing worse than expected in Texas and Ohio, although not necessarily enough so to actually cost him those states. So the big question is which of those trends will apply to PA/MI/WI/AZ, which are the real prize. Biden is certainly underperforming projections… but he had some underperformance to give. 538 claims that the quick early call on CO is a promising sign for Biden, for what it implies in AZ.

Obviously Ohio is much more strongly correlated with PA/MI/WI than say Florida. According to the Economist 85-87. Biden needs around an extra point in these states compared to 2016. If he does 4-5 points better than Hillary in Ohio he should be OK.

The Economist also says that the state with the highest corrleation with Arizona, by far, is Nevada.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/567 "2020-11-04T03:00:28Z")

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I think Trump is going to win. Wow, I think he’s actually going to win. Unreal. I’ve been wrong many times in my life. I can only hope this is one of them.

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/568 "2020-11-04T03:00:52Z")

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Jamie Harrison apparently failed to knock off Lindsey Graham ☹

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**Author:** ![sweepkick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweepkick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweepkick)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/569 "2020-11-04T03:01:50Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> > [@Leaper](#):
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> > There’s a question: it sounds like, so far, it could very well be that the polls are off more than the last presidential election. If so, what, if anything, does that mean?
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> The polls in 2016 wqere not that far off. It’s possible the polls this year could be much weirder than that. In 2016 such misses as the polls had were fairly consistent from state to state - for instance, the rust belt all went more Trumpy than expected by around four points. Tonight though, states are reporting really weird things even compared to each other.
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> It may simply be that the manner of voting in 2020 and the fact some votes won’t be counted today in some states, but were already counted in others, just makes these results weirder than they will end up being.

I’m wondering if it may be that people are ashamed to admit that they would vote for someone like Trump. _shrug_

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/570 "2020-11-04T03:02:25Z")

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Trump is way too close in way too many states. This is a bad sign.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/571 "2020-11-04T03:02:29Z")

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Looks like NC will come down to the wire, and Cal Cunningham is about 2 percentage points behind Biden. If him getting his jollies off ends up costing Ds the Senate. . .

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/572 "2020-11-04T03:02:34Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> Who is the main guy on CNN? What’s his name? The guy in the blue suit and gray hair?

Not Wolf Blitzer. But the other guy, blue suit and blue tie. I forget his name…?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/573 "2020-11-04T03:03:05Z")

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I don’t know why, but [this clip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeTnaYH-08o) (from Semi-Tough) just leaps to mind right now.

Be Burt Reynolds, not Robert Preston.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/574 "2020-11-04T03:03:12Z")

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Trump is now currently ahead in OH.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/575 "2020-11-04T03:03:23Z")

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“Mean people” or “Hateful people”.  
Traditional Republicans have fundamentalist Christians and gun owners. Wealthy people who don’t want to pay taxes. Red necks. Bullies who enjoy seeing people hurt. Gun owners who are afraid that a Democratic President would outlaw their gun ownership, despite the fact that requires Congress passing laws. Ignorant people.  
It is damned depressing that so many Americans belong to the above groups.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/576 "2020-11-04T03:03:31Z")

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This’ll come down to the battle of the laywers.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/577 "2020-11-04T03:04:12Z")

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Biden is ahead in Arizona, but mail-ins are counted first.

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/578 "2020-11-04T03:04:44Z")

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Trump ahead in PA at 22:04 and tied in NC

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/579 "2020-11-04T03:05:02Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> “Mean people” or “Hateful people”.

It’s the people who hate Trump vs. the people who hate the people who hate Trump. In a hate contest the most despicable candidate has an advantage.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/580 "2020-11-04T03:05:30Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> > [@Bullitt](#):
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> > Who is the main guy on CNN? What’s his name? The guy in the blue suit and gray hair?
> 
> Not Wolf Blitzer. But the other guy, blue suit and blue tie. I forget his name…?

John King.

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