# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 297
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5930 "2020-11-13T23:19:06Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Does that mean he’s going to start tilting at the voting machine company now? DHS took great pains to debunk that one, guess they’ll have to try harder. On this he has a bit of a point. Not much of one, but a bit. Voting machines, any voting machine, are problematic. There is a potential for error or fraud. They sometimes do miscount votes. They can be hacked. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/svEuG_ekNT0/maxresdefault.jpg "Voting Machines: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svEuG_ekNT0) I do not believe that it made a difference in this election. If there was error, it was just as likely to be in Trumps favour as against him. If someone hacked the system it might have been a Trump supporter. It’s my opinion that all voting should be paper only. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5931 "2020-11-13T23:19:15Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > The White House should have its own – much easier to read – transcript up eventually. - “Me Big Man!!!” \< thumps chest \> ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5932 "2020-11-13T23:24:22Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Did you want me to throw quote tags around those or leave it at this point? > [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Yes, quote tags. Thanks for clarification, both of you. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5933 "2020-11-13T23:31:20Z")
An of course, Trump can not help but to continue to make huge lies about Operation Warp Speed and Pfizer > **[Fact check: Trump wrongly takes full credit for Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine](https://www.baltimoresun.com/2020/11/13/fact-check-trump-wrongly-takes-full-credit-for-pfizers-covid-19-vaccine/)** > > President Donald Trump on Friday wrongly claimed full credit for Pfizer Inc.’s announcement that its COVID-19 vaccine was robustly successful, misrepresenting the extent of government support… > **TRUMP:** “As a result of Operation Warp Speed, Pfizer announced on Monday that its China virus vaccine was more than 90% effective. …Pfizer said it wasn’t part of Warp Speed, but that turned out to be an unfortunate misrepresentation.” > > **THE FACTS:** Not so much. Pfizer notably did not accept government money to develop, test or expand manufacturing capacity under Trump’s Operation Warp Speed initiative to quickly find a vaccine and treatments for the disease sweeping the country. > > In fact, Pfizer partnered with the vaccine’s original developer, Germany’s BioNTech, in March and the following month announced the first human study in Germany. The White House announced Operation Warp Speed in May. It must hurt Trump to realize that we all have to thank the leader of the free world for that one… Angela Merkel. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5934 "2020-11-13T23:33:30Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Not much of one, but a bit. Voting machines, any voting machine, are problematic. There is a big difference between purely electronic voting machines vs. ballot counting machines. It looks like most of the Dominion uses here are with their ballot counting machines. The ballots themselves are paper, and can be counted by hand if necessary. There are reasons for concern about fully electronic voting but ballot counting seems like a non-issue to me. It would be difficult to get away with any kind of hack since the result is so easily verified by comparing against hand counting or another machine. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5935 "2020-11-13T23:37:14Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > It must hurt Trump to realize that we all have to thank the leader of the free world for that one… > > Angela Merkel. 😉 He would never, ever concede THAT. He hates her to his guts. An uppity, academic woman(!), who doesn’t have to rely on any sex appeal or flash but on her smarts, a fucking scientist by trade of all people! 😱 ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5936 "2020-11-13T23:39:00Z")
Melania allegedly got through _her_ COVID by ‘good nutrition and alternative treatments.’ Focusing on CFSG’s newly white hair … I can’t help but wonder … Maybe – as it has occasionally appeared – he really struggled to kick _his_ COVID symptoms despite The Best Treatment In The World. Maybe Melania convinced him to try a few things. Maybe a colonic irrigation. Maybe … absent a few stones of impacted shit … his natural hair color just magically comes back. It could happen. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5937 "2020-11-13T23:39:03Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > There are reasons for concern about fully electronic voting but ballot counting seems like a non-issue to me. I agree as long as anyone (read all sides) can count the paper ballots. I am too lazy to look it up but I recall a Kansas(?) election where some people felt there were some statistical irregularities and wanted access to the ballots. They were prepared to pay all costs associated with that. Kansas told them to go pound sand. As long as an election can be audited and inspected by all sides and there are physical ballots to count I think the system works. As soon as parts start getting blocked it becomes less certain. Electronic only…no way. We see systems hacked all the time. This would not be good. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5938 "2020-11-14T00:03:28Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > It must hurt Trump to realize that we all have to thank the leader of the free world for that one… > > Angela Merkel. 😉 Nice! Danke, Angela. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5939 "2020-11-14T00:04:31Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > An of course, Trump can not help but to continue to make huge lies about Operation Warp Speed and Pfizer Does this guy think he’s running for something or something?? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5940 "2020-11-14T00:11:27Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I agree as long as anyone (read all sides) can count the paper ballots. I don’t know if any states do this, but random spot checks also sound like a good idea. Order that some random subset of counties or districts have to do a hand recount after the electronic one. Investigate if there’s a discrepancy greater than some very small value. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5941 "2020-11-14T00:16:03Z")
It is not counting during the election and has no effect on the election. It is checking after it is all over. It does not interfere with anything. The people wanting to do this have to pay the costs for the state to make it happen. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5942 "2020-11-14T00:19:17Z")
Just a nice statistic, and a sign how Trump damaged the relations to America’s closest allies: I just saw a (reputable) poll on [ZDF](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZDF) asking the German people the question: How will the relations between the USA and Germany change under Biden? 85%: improve 13%: stay the same 0%: worsen ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5943 "2020-11-14T00:20:26Z")
Was 2% :There’s still a United States? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5944 "2020-11-14T00:23:00Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Focusing on CFSG’s newly white hair … I can’t help but wonder … Maybe he wants to look more like Joe Biden. Maybe he wants people to think he IS Joe Biden. That’s all I got. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5945 "2020-11-14T00:25:13Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Was 2% :There’s still a United States? Maybe, but also “I’m drunk at the moment and cannot answer your question” is possible. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5946 "2020-11-14T00:28:31Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > MSNBC just called Arizona for Biden Tweet from McCain’s daughter: [![](https://i.imgur.com/WP88Vca.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/WP88Vca.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5947 "2020-11-14T00:40:24Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Indeed there is. But even if he doesn’t run, he’ll still have a lot of MAGAheads adoring him, and the entire GOP 2024 field will, I bet, feel compelled to kiss his ass, er, ring lest he unleash a tweetstorm against them. I know this was hours ago in this fast moving thread so I quoted it. I think we should make a Pit thread making bets on how soon Trump gets kicked off of Twitter, Facebook (I know they change the WH over to the new Pres. and archive the previous administration’s and I have no idea if DJT has an actual FB account of his own), LinkedIn, and also the last time Trump’s name gets a headline on any MSM site. Because after Jan 20, 2021 … he no longer has “immunity”. In the future I’ll only read an article about him if it’s about NYS court stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5948 "2020-11-14T00:48:37Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Note, I’m British, and don’t fully understand the US electoral system. > > Question, just for clarification, why is the count taking so long? When Winston Churchill first started contesting, they could keep up with the processing because they spread out the voting over several weeks. And that wasn’t even universal suffrage. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5949 "2020-11-14T00:56:05Z")
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