# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 304
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6070 "2020-11-15T01:19:49Z")
Oh good, for a few minutes there, i thought we could actually be in trouble. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6071 "2020-11-15T01:22:48Z")
Read the SF author Larry Correia’s FB page and his blog? He is posting nothing but the most insane 'we wuz robbed" election fraud conspiracy theories and his followers are eating it up like cornflakes. Oddly FB doesnt seem to do anything about him, ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6072 "2020-11-15T01:23:03Z")
I had to share this picture (as an aside I got to shake Carter’s hand when I was on a flight leaving Atlanta…he was on the plane and came down the aisle shaking hands…late 90s): [![](https://i.redd.it/u11xixnih7z51.jpg) ](https://i.redd.it/u11xixnih7z51.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6073 "2020-11-15T01:25:10Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Oddly FB doesnt seem to do anything about him, If this doesn’t count then what does? [https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/13/tech/facebook-steve-bannon/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/13/tech/facebook-steve-bannon/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6074 "2020-11-15T01:27:22Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > I’d like to talk to some of the reps from Porter Wright and Jones Day … c’mon guys, even before Trump put Rudy in charge, wasn’t the inevitability of a shit-show obvious? It appears that they are very stupid; it is the only explanation for why they allowed themselves to be recruited in the first place. Well, the only lawyers left were the stupid ones. And now Trump has burned through them as well. Looks like all he’s got left in Rudy. I hope they enjoy being cell mates. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6075 "2020-11-15T01:32:54Z")
Thank you for that. I’ve always liked Carter, and Abrams is a very impressive person. (Carter was the trigger for my first published letter to the editor.) ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6076 "2020-11-15T01:40:58Z")
Carter gets a bad rap as a president (which I don’t think is entirely fair) but he surely has been the best ex-president ever. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6077 "2020-11-15T01:41:42Z")
I hope you’re not under the impression that I thought he had any chance at dignity. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6078 "2020-11-15T01:44:10Z")
You know those Venn diagrams that don’t intersect? You can put “Trump” in one and “dignity” in the other. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6079 "2020-11-15T01:50:05Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Deep _undead_ of some sort. I am checking all five Monster Manuals and still cant find a match. I laughed. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6080 "2020-11-15T01:57:00Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > I’d like to talk to some of the reps from Porter Wright and Jones Day … c’mon guys, even before Trump put Rudy in charge, wasn’t the inevitability of a shit-show obvious? It appears that they are very stupid; it is the only explanation for why they allowed themselves to be recruited in the first place. From some article I saw on the subject, these firms had been representing Trump for a long time (which itself lends to negative opinions about them). They weren’t just now recruited to work on the election bamboozle. Quite the opposite: The fact that these long-time Trump law firms dumped him now says something, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6081 "2020-11-15T02:01:41Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Wow. Oh, for the days when a Post headline “[Republican president] to NY: Drop Dead” was just a figure of speech. ☹ New York Times opinion writer Jennifer Senior really went there, March 24, 2020: > **[Opinion | Trump to New York: Drop Dead (Published 2020)](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/opinion/trump-nyc-coronavirus.html)** > > Untold thousands will likely die, absent federal intervention. And it needs to happen this instant. Why won’t the president help? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6082 "2020-11-15T02:02:21Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > The fact that these long-time Trump law firms dumped him now says something, I think. The Achilles Heel of people like Trump. The people around him are not there because they love and support him or believe in anything he is doing. They are all self-serving sycophants and will bail the instant Trump does not serve their interests. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6083 "2020-11-15T02:04:45Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > They are all self-serving sycophants Which is pretty much what lawyers are, and often legitimately so. Just so they get paid. It has been speculated (in one of these Trumpy threads, probably earlier in this one) that they quit when Trump stopped paying them. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6084 "2020-11-15T02:57:11Z")
It may be what some lawyers are, and maybe what most big firm lawyers are (at least in a sense), but is not what most are. I think they dropped him because having him as a client was a feather in their caps (to some people) and he provided a steady stream of business either directly or indirectly, but they will only go so far, and he was quickly becoming less feather and more turd. If someone will swear out an affidavit, they’ll file a claim based on it, even if it’s flimsy. But, they won’t directly make stuff up. They also want a client who will, generally, follow their advice. And finally, they want publicity, but not just for filing a bunch of bogus stuff for a loser. If he wasn’t paying them, that would be an obvious reason, but certainly not the only one possible. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6085 "2020-11-15T03:19:29Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > As for consequences if the acting agency head stays there longer than permitted by the temporary offices statute, the question of legal authority to act comes up, as **Robby** mentioned. > > I read an article last summer that pointed out that the acting secretary of homeland security had been in that position past the time limit, which raised the concern that all of his actions under statutory powers, like appointing officers below the level of presidential appointments may be invalid, and therefore those officers were acting without legal authority, and so on. > > So it wouldn’t be the Senate that would be raising the issue in court, but some person who had been arrested or detained and was challenging the legality of the detention and should be set free, because the detaining officer didn’t have legal authority to detain. > > The author pointed out the irony that Trump’s penchant for avoiding confirmation fights and relying on “acting” appointments could have the effect of giving immigrants a “get-out-of-ICE” card … And a Federal Judge rules that the Acting Secretary of Homeland Security doesn’t have lawful authority to act, and therefore the purported administrative sustpension of the Dreamers’ program is null and void: > **[Judge: DHS head didn't have authority to suspend DACA](https://apnews.com/general-news-6da7a068fd66722136fc1fd5eb82098b)** > > A federal judge in New York has ruled that Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf assumed his position unlawfully. U.S. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6086 "2020-11-15T04:04:56Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Read the SF author Larry Correia’s FB page and his blog? He is posting nothing but the most insane 'we wuz robbed" election fraud conspiracy theories and his followers are eating it up like cornflakes. Apparently the election was rigged by Tor groupies. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6087 "2020-11-15T04:14:05Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > > [@DrDeth](#): > > > > Oddly FB doesnt seem to do anything about him, > > If this doesn’t count then what does? > > [https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/13/tech/facebook-steve-bannon/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/13/tech/facebook-steve-bannon/index.html) Probably nothing, if there’s any chance the perp can lead a mass exodus to MeinSpace. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6088 "2020-11-15T04:21:01Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > > [@DrDeth](#): > > > > Read the SF author Larry Correia’s FB page and his blog? He is posting nothing but the most insane 'we wuz robbed" election fraud conspiracy theories and his followers are eating it up like cornflakes. > > Apparently the election was rigged by Tor groupies. Sad Puppies need something to occupy themselves with until the next round of Hugo noms? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6089 "2020-11-15T04:26:11Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > You know those Venn diagrams that don’t intersect? You can put “Trump” in one and “dignity” in the other. Didja see this one?: > **[Was Trump First US President To Lose Popular Vote, Get Impeached, Then Lose...](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-venn-diagram/)** > > The 45th president made history, both good and bad, in the 2020 election. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=303) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=305)