# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 305
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6090 "2020-11-15T04:33:26Z")
Hadn’t seen it - thanks. Sums it all up. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6091 "2020-11-15T05:52:13Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Apparently the election was rigged by Tor groupies. Just as long as it wasn’t Gor groupies. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6092 "2020-11-15T05:53:39Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > The Achilles Heel of people like Trump. The people around him are not there because they love and support him or believe in anything he is doing. They are all self-serving sycophants and will bail the instant Trump does not serve their interests. It’s the classic evil overlord conundrum - you can get loyal henchman, or you can get competent henchmen, but you can’t have any who are both. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6093 "2020-11-15T06:15:32Z")
What i like to point out is that GHWB–who started these letters–wrote his after a crushing defeat to Clinton. That was gracious. I’ll bet Biden writes one no matter what the current ignoramus does. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6094 "2020-11-15T06:29:36Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > What i like to point out is that GHWB–who started these letters–wrote his after a crushing defeat to Clinton. Actually, Reagan started the tradition with a short note to George H. W. Bush (on cute stationery that said “Don’t let the turkeys get you down.”). > **[The Letters That Outgoing Presidents Wrote to Their Successors](https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2020/11/letters-presidents-their-successors/617089/)** > > Each one reminds us what a peaceful—and gracious—transfer of power looks like. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6095 "2020-11-15T06:31:01Z")
Huh. I had always read it was Bush. Ignorance fought. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6096 "2020-11-15T06:36:10Z")
Well, Reagans is more of a note that a letter, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6097 "2020-11-15T06:37:03Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Apparently the election was rigged by Tor groupies. > [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Just as long as it wasn’t Gor groupies. Or [Wizard of Wor](https://youtu.be/9Lodc0kFYuo) groupies. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6098 "2020-11-15T06:39:57Z")
Bush’s letter to Clinton was the first to a member of the opposing political party, though. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6099 "2020-11-15T11:18:50Z")
Foiled again! > **[GOP leaders in 4 states quash dubious Trump bid on electors](https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-legislature-pennsylvania-b199b2debc87fbb20612a48835bc0dba)** > > Republican leaders in four critical states won by President-elect Joe Biden say they won’t participate in a legally dubious scheme to flip their state’s electors to vote for President Donald Trump. > Republican leaders in four critical states won by President-elect Joe Biden say they won’t participate in a legally dubious scheme to flip their state’s electors to vote for President Donald Trump. Their comments effectively shut down a half-baked plot some Republicans floated as a last chance to keep Trump in the White House. > > State GOP lawmakers in Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin have all said they would not intervene in the selection of electors, who ultimately cast the votes that secure a candidate’s victory. Such a move would violate state law and a vote of the people, several noted. > > “I do not see, short of finding some type of fraud — which I haven’t heard of anything — I don’t see us in any serious way addressing a change in electors,” said Rusty Bowers, Arizona’s Republican House speaker, who says he’s been inundated with emails pleading for the legislature to intervene. “They are mandated by statute to choose according to the vote of the people.” > > The idea loosely involves GOP-controlled legislatures dismissing Biden’s popular vote wins in their states and opting to select Trump electors. While the endgame was unclear, it appeared to hinge on the expectation that a conservative-leaning Supreme Court would settle any dispute over the move. > > Still, it has been promoted by Trump allies, including Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, and is an example of misleading information and false claims fueling skepticism among Trump supporters about the integrity of the vote. > … ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6100 "2020-11-15T11:38:13Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > – @Peter_Morris, what’s the date of that video? > [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > [1979](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Message_to_You_Rudy). A cover version of a 1967 song. Point of clarification: Rudy = Rude Boy (at least in this context). > **[Rude boy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rude_boy)** > > Rude boy is a subculture that originated from 1960s Jamaican street culture. In the late 1970s, there was a revival in England of the terms rude boy and rude girl, among other variations like rudeboy and rudebwoy, being used to describe fans of two-tone and ska. This revival of the subculture and term was partially the result of Jamaican immigration to the UK and the so-called ”Windrush” generation. The use of these terms moved into the more contemporary ska punk movement as well. In the UK a Nice use of the song, though. j ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6101 "2020-11-15T11:56:07Z")
It looks like Trump’s expanded his legal team —- > This is crazytown, everyone. DiGenova and Toensing may be more insane than Guiliani, and they spent a lot of time running around Ukraine with Guiliani digging up dirt on whoever and they are at the forefront of the Soros conspiracy theories. > **[This Couple Is Wading In The Depths Of The Ukraine Conspiracy Theory — And...](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/miriamelder/victoria-toensing-joe-digenova-ukraine-giuliani)** > > You may not know them well, but you know their work: Victoria Toensing and Joe diGenova have been at the center of major political news for 40 years. And we might not be in the middle of impeachment without them. So now the real lawyers that lent this endeavor a razor-thin veneer of legitimacy have all flown the coop. Guiliani is still planning on going to the Supreme Court with the grand theory that the votes don’t count if he wasn’t allowed to wander around the vote processing center bothering civil servants. And they are going to go full conspiracy theory, and even though I don’t think Trump’s lizard brain fully comprehends what the election in Georgia is _for_, he’s figured out that the Republicans are nervous about it for some reason, so he’s already slinging stink bombs demanding they find a way to nullify the electoral votes. I think the fact that Trump fired everyone else and went with the clown car lends credence to my theory that he’s completely lost it and the idea that he just needed some time to accept his historic loss was delusional ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6102 "2020-11-15T13:50:08Z")
Trump concedes! Well, in his own way… 🤣🤣🤣 > > > Jesse Watters Primetime @jesseprimetime ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6103 "2020-11-15T13:54:57Z")
That’s not a concession. That is more whining. Maybe it means he’s moving from the Tantrum phase to the Blubbering phase having worn himself out. Also, did you have to get my hopes up like that? ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6104 "2020-11-15T13:59:52Z")
Everything after “He Won” is a lie, as usual. It’s probably the closest thing we’ll ever see to an actual concession. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6105 "2020-11-15T14:02:25Z")
How Trump supporters look themselves in the mirror baffles me. This is your hero?? This guy? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6106 "2020-11-15T14:03:19Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Trump making Pocahontas jokes with the last living Code Talkers in front of an Andrew Jackson painting likely cost him Arizona: > [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > Not just Navajo: Here’s something I posted earlier in the thread. The conversation has been moving fast, and folks might have missed it. It’s a map of tribal lands in Arizona, alongside a precinct-level map of the presidential vote in the current election: [![](https://i.ibb.co/zJD7GSR/AZ-Tribal-and-Election-2020.png) ](https://i.ibb.co/zJD7GSR/AZ-Tribal-and-Election-2020.png) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6107 "2020-11-15T14:10:24Z")
5 fundraising emails before 8am and this one made me burst out laughing: [![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MTzFHShIGTfdapnrJRMVZJJ0JvsE6M6t1T4KSX6Yr7vfmDouZB5ODcJ0sWDTYRxNvhRbM_VmaAONBYZY4IU8sIkAtEeZMriHnaH4mphooom7cxLyxNMV9FdwNR8gXhliuf7F7D5RBg=w600-h315-p-k "New item by John Thornton") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/PyT47oFVnSj3SJGT7) ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6108 "2020-11-15T14:15:57Z")
> I’ll bet Biden writes one no matter what the current ignoramus does. _Dear Michelle…_ ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6109 "2020-11-15T14:20:14Z")
I know that one’s getting attention, but he sort of did the same thing a few days ago. > That doesn’t mean he’s going to stop fighting, though. He’s just going to get crazier and crazier. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=304) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=306)