# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 313
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6250 "2020-11-17T17:51:01Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@Ludovic](#): > > > > They’re obviously in a basement in San Antonio instead. > > We don’t really have basements here… okay, _some_ buildings do. Pee Wee reference, I assume. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0PdeHy_87OM/maxresdefault.jpg "Pee-wee's Big Adventure (9/10) Movie CLIP - The Alamo Tour (1985) HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PdeHy_87OM) ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6251 "2020-11-17T18:02:14Z")
> [@susan](#): > > If Pence is sworn in as 46th for a week or so, would that limit him to one 4-year term only in the future? Which leads to a question which perhaps should have its own thread: How short a term could Pence have and still “count” as 46th president? If Donnie drops dead in 2020, surely Pence’s time in office would count since it would be on a par with Tippecanoe. But suppose it’s Jan 18 and the same thing happens- would two days of being president earn him the title of #46? Still say yes? Well how about if the same thing happens at 11 am on Jan 20- would an hour count as being the 46th? If that isn’t too short to count, what is? Five minutes? One minute? Ten seconds? For what it’s worth, I think anything under a day shouldn’t count. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6252 "2020-11-17T18:04:18Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > We don’t really have basements here… okay, _some_ buildings do. [The Alamo got a basement in the 1990s](http://gwmitchell.com/trivia-question-does-the-alamo-have-a-basement/), of course being an 80s movie it missed it, but Pewee did get a tour later… 😄 [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/dwzbEMPba24/hqdefault.jpg "Pee-Wee Herman Finds The Alamo Basement") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwzbEMPba24) ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6253 "2020-11-17T18:36:05Z")
I’d say if he was president, even for a nanosecond, then _he was president_ and must be counted. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6254 "2020-11-17T18:40:45Z")
Agreed. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6255 "2020-11-17T18:57:55Z")
I think that’s too fine a point, personally. Pence wouldn’t have even had a heartbeat as president in that time. Seems to me that you should at least have the opportunity to do something as president before being counted as one. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6256 "2020-11-17T19:06:07Z")
It will kill tens of thousands of Americans: > **[Trump's transition sabotage threatens vaccine rollout | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/17/politics/election-2020-transition-coronavirus-donald-trump-joe-biden/index.html)** > > President Donald Trump's refusal to coordinate with President-elect Joe Biden on the critical Covid-19 vaccine is bringing a staggering possibility into clearer view: that an outgoing US commander in chief is actively working to sabotage his... _Given the current national emergency, they threaten to cause practical fallout that could damage Biden’s incoming White House not just in a political sense. There are increasing concerns that Trump’s obstruction will slow and complicate the delivery of the vaccine that brings the tantalizing prospect of a return to normal life amid[stunning news from trials showing doses](https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/16/health/moderna-vaccine-results-coronavirus/index.html)are effective in stopping more than 90% of coronavirus infections…The distribution operation will be a massively complex and historic public vaccination effort targeting hundreds of millions of Americans – many millions of whom have resisted following basic safety protocols like wearing masks because Trump has encouraged them not to. The inoculation campaign will require a high level of public trust and will involve sharp ethical debates among officials about who should get the vaccine first. The entire program could be damaged if it is politicized. But unless something changes, the Biden team may face the task of tackling those issues afresh, in a frantic catch-up operation._ ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6257 "2020-11-17T19:08:20Z")
As long as he is sworn in. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6258 "2020-11-17T19:19:45Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > The allegations are there and fraud is specifically mentioned. > > Details > > From [the complaint](https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/public-files/press_assets/1.-11-10-20-trump-v.-benson-w.d.-mich.-complaint-final.pdf), heading I. > > > “Challenger Patricia Rose stated she observed a stack of about fifty ballots being fed multiple times into a ballot scanner counting machine. Id. (Rose aff. ¶¶4-14).” > > “Challenger Articia Bomer stated, ‘I observed a station where election workers were working on scanned ballots that had issues that needed to be manually corrected. I believe some of these workers were changing votes that had been cast for Donald Trump and other Republican candidates.’ Id. (Bomer aff. ¶9). Articia Bomer further stated that she witnessed the same group of ballots being rescanned into the counting machine ‘at least five times.’ Id. ¶12.” > > At least one challenger observed poll workers adding marks to a ballot where there was no mark for any candidate. Id. (Tyson aff. ¶17).” > > Another challenger observed election officials making mistakes when duplicating ballots. Id. (Piontek aff. ¶9).” Challenger Abigail Williams observed Joe Biden with the Devil, Kamala Harris with the Devil, Barrack Obama with the Devil. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6259 "2020-11-17T19:29:39Z")
If he had to be sworn in alone and it was a woman delivering the oath, he might have to pass. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6260 "2020-11-17T19:47:24Z")
Wisconsin has finished their offical vote tally, and Biden’s margin of victory increased slightly (+181 votes) compared to the initial tally, giving him a margin of 20,608 votes. Trump’s campaign is now on the clock to request a recount by 5pm tomorrow. > **[Biden won Wisconsin by about 20,600 votes, according to official tally;...](https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/17/biden-won-wisconsin-20-600-votes-recount-possible/6323441002/)** > > Joe Biden slightly widened his small lead in Wisconsin, according to the final tallies counties submitted to the state on Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6261 "2020-11-17T19:55:05Z")
To be clear- request and PAY for the recount by 5pm tomorrow. To the tune of $8m. Not gonna happen. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6262 "2020-11-17T20:01:12Z")
_Unless_ that woman is Mrs. Pence. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6263 "2020-11-17T20:01:50Z")
Lol, who has a basement in San Antonio? ETA: ahhh, a PeeWee Herman reference. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6264 "2020-11-17T20:04:03Z")
Trump killed his chances in GA: > ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6265 "2020-11-17T20:04:42Z")
Poor choice of words, **JohnT**. I had to double-take. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6266 "2020-11-17T20:05:30Z")
Lol, fixed. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6267 "2020-11-17T20:14:32Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > For what it’s worth, I think anything under a day shouldn’t count. > [@Frodo](#): > > I’d say if he was president, even for a nanosecond, then _he was president_ and must be counted. I think if he was sworn in, it would probably count. If there wasn’t time for swearing in before Biden was sworn in, then I think it would be referred to as, “technically, Pence was president for 30 seconds between when Trump was pronounced and noon, but no one treats him as having been president.” Think it would be technically true for any amount of time. But for people to count it as anything other than a technicality, it would need to be for an appreciable amount of time, after being sworn in. Like, was he actually in charge of nuclear launch codes? Hours, yes. 30 minutes? Maybe. Less than 15 minutes? Probably not. “Technically” only. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6268 "2020-11-17T20:17:27Z")
> [@eschrodinger](#): > > Hours, yes. 30 minutes? Maybe. Less than 15 minutes? Probably not. “Technically” only. It would make for a great trivia question in 100 years Pence would otherwise be forgotten about 2 years. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6269 "2020-11-17T20:39:19Z")
Can’t we all get along? > **[Infighting and an attempted 'coup': Trump team erupts into chaos as Giuliani...](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/infighting-attempted-coup-trump-team-erupts-chaos-giuliani/story?id=74257079)** > > President Trump's campaign and legal teams have descended into chaos behind the scenes as many brace for the end of the post-election fight. > The chaos inside the campaign parallels the president’s ongoing efforts in court, which have been met with increasingly frustrated judges around the country. > > “At what point does this get ridiculous?” said one exasperated judge, an appointee of President Barack Obama, before ruling against the Republicans in Nevada. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=312) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=314)