# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 318
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6351 "2020-11-18T17:04:20Z")
Next month’s headlines: **Trump campaign files lawsuit to demand refund of $3 million spent on recount that didn’t change election outcome** ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6352 "2020-11-18T17:07:52Z")
Biden won Wisconsin 1,630,716 to 1,610,151, a difference of 20,565 votes. The difference is about 0.7%. Biden won 14 of the 72 Wisconsin counties. In these 14 counties, Biden has 786,307 votes, while Trump has 386,601 votes. That’s a difference of 399,706 votes. In the 58 counties that Trump won, he has 1,223,550 votes, while Biden has 844,409. Trump has 379,141 more votes than Biden in those counties. So, in the effort to find 10k more Trump votes and 10k less Biden votes (or some combination thereof), will Trump pay for recounts in the Red counties or the Blue counties? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6353 "2020-11-18T17:22:09Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > So, in the effort to find 10k more Trump votes and 10k less Biden votes (or some combination thereof), will Trump pay for recounts in the Red counties or the Blue counties? - Considering the competence displayed, he’ll go for the Red counties. After all, more people there love him. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6354 "2020-11-18T17:30:32Z")
AP is reporting it will be Dane and Milwaukee counties. > **[Trump pursues recount of 2 liberal Wisconsin counties](https://apnews.com/article/trump-wisconsin-deadline-vote-recount-1348ed4b4691fa28bd3102c4f97599c1)** > > MADISON, Wis. (AP) — President Donald Trump filed Wednesday for a recount of Wisconsin's two largest Democratic counties, paying the required $3 million cost and alleging that they were the sites of the “worst irregularities” although no evidence of... ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6355 "2020-11-18T17:35:09Z")
> [@solost](#): > > or > > **trump wastes donor money on useless recount activity that will make no difference to his failed reelection bid** I look forward to **Trump Loses Election in Wisconsin a Second Time** ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6356 "2020-11-18T17:36:11Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > AP is reporting it will be Dane and Milwaukee counties. Dane County reported 260,185 votes for Biden; 78,800 votes for Trump. About 75% Biden. Milwaukee County reported 317,270 votes for Biden; 134,357 votes for Trump. About 70% Biden. Good luck finding those votes, Donnie. (I’m using the [politico.com](https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/wisconsin/) voting results page for these numbers.) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6357 "2020-11-18T17:38:27Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Dane County reported 260,185 votes for Biden; 78,800 votes for Trump. About 75% Biden. > Milwaukee County reported 317,270 votes for Biden; 134,357 votes for Trump. About 70% Biden. > > Good luck finding those votes, Donnie. I imagine that the narrative is “We’re ordering a recount so that we can demonstrate that there were many, many fraudulent Democratic ballots!” (Which there won’t be, of course.) ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6358 "2020-11-18T17:44:16Z")
The most likely error would not be ballots that were counted for the wrong person; it would be ballots that were mistakenly not counted, like in Georgia. So if you really wanted to have a chance of changing something, you should be recounting in the heavily red districts where any missing ballots will add to your total. If you have no expectation that anything will change and are doing this only to continue your complaints of fraud, then sure, waste your money on the blue counties. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6359 "2020-11-18T17:48:21Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > So if you really wanted to have a chance of changing something, you should be recounting in the heavily red districts where any missing ballots will add to your total. Duh. So, I guess the goal isn’t to flip the state, it’s to prove the Dems are evil, rigging, cheating, lying cheaters. Who cheat and lie. And rig. > [@](#): > > If you have no expectation that anything will change and are doing this only to continue your complaints of fraud, then sure, waste **your** money on the blue counties. My bold. Hell, ain’t his money. What does he care? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6360 "2020-11-18T17:55:36Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > So if you really wanted to have a chance of changing something, you should be recounting in the heavily red districts where any missing ballots will add to your total. You are absolutely correct. It would be fitting if the recounts in the blue counties find more votes for Biden. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6361 "2020-11-18T18:07:41Z")
Which would be Proof Positive\* of Democrat Election Fraud™. \*Using the (in)famous “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” maxim. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6362 "2020-11-18T18:16:13Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > I look forward to **Trump Loses Election in Wisconsin a Second Time** I look forward to **trump Indicted by SDNY for Fraud and Tax Evasion** ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6363 "2020-11-18T18:31:02Z")
I look forward to **Dozens Mourn Death of Imprisoned Former President** ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6364 "2020-11-18T18:37:16Z")
538 seems to give those odds that Purdue will win one and Warnock the other. > **[2020 Senate Election Forecast](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/senate/georgia/)** > > Latest forecasts and polls for the 2020 Senate elections by Nate Silver’s FiveThirtyEight And dont give me that guff that 538 was wrong- they predicted a Biden win- he won. They said a Joe landslide was unlikely- and well… They had only a 60% chance that the dems would take the senate, and it’s close. However, I think the elections are gonna be very close. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6365 "2020-11-18T18:41:18Z")
Weather channel reports a huge expected wind storm on January 20th, when Americans collectively exhale in relief. heh ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6366 "2020-11-18T18:55:19Z")
Those are old projections regarding the likely outcome on November 3. The runoff is a whole new ballgame. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6367 "2020-11-18T18:58:16Z")
No, they are specifically for the _Special Election._ ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6368 "2020-11-18T19:01:50Z")
The Purdue seat is a _regular election_. The Loeffler seat is a _special election_. Both are going to a _run-off election._ Look at those 538 links more closely, why would they list “a Democrat” as likely to win the special election instead of saying Warnock? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6369 "2020-11-18T19:15:57Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > The Wisconsin Elections Commission has received a wire transfer from the Trump campaign for $3 million. No petition has been received yet, but the Trump campaign has told WEC staff one will be filed today. Such a shame that the Wisconsin Elections Commission is not more like Trump, but then, no one on earth is, really. If they were more Trump-like in their moral outlook, they’d spend the $3 million on hookers and blow, claim they never received it, and sue Trump for $20 million for defamation. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6370 "2020-11-18T19:16:53Z")
Here is a link to 528’s forecast for the Georgia Senate _Special Election_ (you linked to the _General Election_). Note that at no point is Warnock projected to win a majority of votes, thus pushing into a run-off. There have been no polls run featuring either race taken from a list of likely voters in the runoff - all polls are likely voters in the presidential election. Here’s 538’s most recent article on the runoffs: > **[Georgia’s Runoffs Will Determine Control Of The Senate. Here’s What We Know...](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/georgias-runoffs-will-determine-control-of-the-senate-heres-what-we-know-so-far/)** > > Election Day 2020 has come and gone, and we still don’t know which party will control the Senate next year. As of Tuesday at 10 p.m. Eastern, it looks as though… A key quote: > In short, we just don’t know whether the usual playbook for Georgia runoffs still applies. Until we get more data (and we _will_ be releasing a polling average for both runoffs), it’s best to treat both a Democratic or Republican victory as a serious possibility. Who knows — maybe even the parties will win one seat each! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=317) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=319)