# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 324
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6471 "2020-11-19T16:40:11Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I wonder if this will become a problem for anyone People who didn’t have a problem with it in 2016 (when the article’s from) most likely haven’t had a problem with it since. > [@Railer13](#): > > The 4th state is Louisiana, where the certification date was November 10. No word on why it’s delayed or hasn’t been released. Whatever the reason, it seems unlikely Louisiana’s not certifying in order to attempt to get Trump more votes, as he’s got theirs in any case. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6472 "2020-11-19T16:47:47Z")
One possibility that occurs to me now is that, if Republicans begin coordinating, they could begin refusing to certify results across a number of states and then attempt to sow enough chaos and confusion to contest the election. How that process would actually play out, I don’t know - it probably takes some background in the constitutional/election law process. But even if “the plan” doesn’t succeed procedurally, they could really and truly end up making such a spectacular mess of the whole transition process that it casts doubt on Biden’s legitimacy. It’s really scorched earth politics of a magnitude that is reminiscent of 1850s and 1860s America. Without question, we’re approaching the most serious political crisis this country will have seen in generations. My fears are playing out: the rank and file Republicans, and its leadership, have created a monster. They’re now afraid to take on Trump because they know that their voters are _his_ voters first - they are his army, not theirs. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6473 "2020-11-19T16:48:53Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Maybe it’s because I’m on my phone these days I wouldn’t be able to do this on my phone. Even the kindle screen is a size challenge. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6474 "2020-11-19T16:50:08Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > What concerns me most is that if trump could get his own slate of electors, half the country wouldn’t even think democracy had been subverted because of course Dems cheated to get Biden the win. You can write all the constitutions you want, but what holds up the rule of law and democracy is general agreement amongst the people that it should be held up. A consensus that “we may have our differences, but these are the core values and rules we agree on” is the REAL constitution of a nation. I don’t think the USA has that anymore. A slim majority isn’t a consensus. ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6475 "2020-11-19T16:51:33Z")
I think I’ll set up a taco truck out on that ledge. Y’know, long as I’m out there anyways, with all these potential customers. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6476 "2020-11-19T16:55:35Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I wouldn’t be able to do this on my phone. Even the kindle screen is a size challenge. I wouldn’t be able to do it on a Kindle. Mine is kind of slow and awkward. (It worked this time!) > [@RickJay](#): > > I don’t think the USA has that anymore. A slim majority isn’t a consensus. I’m really starting to think this country needs to break up but not sure how to do that fairly and it won’t happen anyway. It feels really scary. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6477 "2020-11-19T17:04:50Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > I’m really starting to think this country needs to break up but not sure how to do that fairly and it won’t happen anyway. It feels really scary. This is an oldie but a goodie: > Dear Red States: > > We’ve decided we’re leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we’re taking the other Blue States with us. > > In case you aren’t aware, that includes Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all of the Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California. > > To sum up briefly: > > You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches. > > We get Elliot Spitzer. You get Ken Lay. > > We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood. > > We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom. > > We get Harvard. You get Ole’ Miss. > > We get 85 percent of America’s venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama. > > We get two-thirds of the tax revenue. You get to make the red states pay their fair share. > > Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition’s, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms. > > Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and anti-war, and we’re going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they’re apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don’t care if you don’t show pictures of their children’s caskets coming home. We do wish you success in Iraq, and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we’re not willing to spend our resources in Bush’s Quagmire. > > With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80 percent of the country’s fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation’s fresh fruit, 95 percent of America’s quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools, plus Stanford, Cal Tech, MIT, and University of California. > > With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia. > > We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you. > > Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe life is sacred unless we’re discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44 percent say that evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals than we lefties. > > By the way, we’re taking the good pot, too. You can have that dirt weed they grow in Mexico. > > Peace out, > > California (original source unknown) > > [SOURCE](http://www.chem.ucla.edu/~ltfang/humors/toredstates.html) ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6478 "2020-11-19T17:05:28Z")
So earlier today trump tweeted: > Important News Conference today by lawyers on a very clear and viable path to victory. Pieces are very nicely falling into place. RNC at 12:00 P.M. Any news on if this is being televised, or even what landscaping company it’s being held at? I’m flipping through the major networks and not seeing anything. Our local Fox affiliate is showing Wendy Williams right now. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6479 "2020-11-19T17:08:49Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > You can write all the constitutions you want, but what holds up the rule of law and democracy is general agreement amongst the people that it should be held up. A consensus that “we may have our differences, but these are the core values and rules we agree on” is the REAL constitution of a nation. > > I don’t think the USA has that anymore. A slim majority isn’t a consensus. Very true. The last sentence about the general state of the USA is perhaps arguable, but the last four years of Trump have definitely done a great deal to undermine basic American values and order. But the first part is absolutely true, and it applies not only to politics, but to societal order in general. Business and commerce, too, fundamentally depends on deals being made in good faith, on basic honesty, and on contracts being respected. The judicial system can deal with occasional transgressors, but if everybody acted like Trump, the whole system would fall apart. A constitution is worthless if powerful players choose to ignore it or game it for their own interests. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6481 "2020-11-19T17:13:06Z")
Delaying certification in Arizona would also delay Kelly replacing McSally in the Senate. Makes shenanigans like confirming the loony tunes Fed board member easier. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6482 "2020-11-19T17:13:32Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Any news on if this is being televised, or even what landscaping company it’s being held at? I’m flipping through the major networks and not seeing anything. Our local Fox affiliate is showing Wendy Williams right now. Rudy’s on FOX right now, babbling about how Philly and Detroit haven’t had a fair election in 60 years. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6483 "2020-11-19T17:14:13Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Any news on if this is being televised, or even what landscaping company it’s being held at? This place seems like it would work on a number of levels: [https://www.fourseasonsdumpsters.com/](https://www.fourseasonsdumpsters.com/) ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6484 "2020-11-19T17:14:35Z")
Yep, found a “watch live” link on [foxnews.com](http://foxnews.com). Thanks! That weird smile on the face of the woman directly behind Rudy looks like someone trying to keep a brave face in public while privately rethinking her life choices that led up to her being there. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6485 "2020-11-19T17:21:06Z")
At what point do these racist Republicans just start causally dropping the n-word in their official statements and press conferences? It honestly wouldn’t surprise me when/if they do, and I don’t think it would actually cost them a single vote. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6486 "2020-11-19T17:24:33Z")
Rudy is rehashing all the claims regarding ballot curing and provisional ballots and ballot counting observation and Democratic fraud. Now he’s talking about his favorite movie ‘My Cousin Vinnie.’ Sorry, I can’t watch anymore. I’ll wait for the recap. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6487 "2020-11-19T17:24:44Z")
Rudy’s quoting ‘his favorite law movie’, My Cousin Vinnie, in making his voter fraud argument. What bizarro parallel universe are we living in right now? EDIT: Ninja’d by Railer13. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6488 "2020-11-19T17:25:35Z")
Oh boy, here comes Jessy Jacob again. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6489 "2020-11-19T17:25:58Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > One possibility that occurs to me now is that, if Republicans begin coordinating, they could begin refusing to certify results across a number of states and then attempt to sow enough chaos and confusion to contest the election. How that process would actually play out, I don’t know - it probably takes some background in the constitutional/election law process. But even if “the plan” doesn’t succeed procedurally, they could really and truly end up making such a spectacular mess of the whole transition process that it casts doubt on Biden’s legitimacy. It’s really scorched earth politics of a magnitude that is reminiscent of 1850s and 1860s America. Let’s be clear about this: if the Trump and the GOP were to succeed in these maneuvers, the US would likely descend into armed conflict within 5 years. Worst case: there wouldn’t even be a time when Trump and his allies didn’t insist he was the POTUS and the armed conflict would begin at 12:01pm on 20 January 2021. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6490 "2020-11-19T17:26:31Z")
Rudy and trump and co don’t even need any court rulings in their favor if they just bully GOP election officials at lower levels like in Wayne County, do they? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6491 "2020-11-19T17:26:45Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Any news on if this is being televised, or even what landscaping company it’s being held at? I believe it’s at the Hyatt Regency Total Fertilizer Company, on the picturesque grounds of a bull pasture where Rudy – once again surprised by the venue – is nevertheless currently bloviating, much to the annoyance of the bulls. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=323) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=325)