# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6532 "2020-11-20T00:01:28Z")

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Yeah:

> **[AP FACT CHECK: Trump legal team's batch of false vote claims](https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-ap-fact-check-joe-biden-donald-trump-technology-5abd64917ef8be9e9e2078180973e8b3)**
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> Despite a lack of evidence of widespread irregularities or fraud, President Donald Trump’s legal team used a Thursday press conference to go through a laundry list of far-fetched, thoroughly debunked claims on the 2020 election...

One need only compare the respective track records for accuracy and honesty of:

- Trump and his acolytes, and
- The MSM, and
- The various fact-checking organizations

I’ll wait 😉

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6533 "2020-11-20T01:03:32Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> I think this means he’s a [robot](https://share.getcloudapp.com/DOuonW15)…

Domo Arigato, Mr. beowulff…

They got nothing.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6534 "2020-11-20T01:17:03Z")

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WTF happened to “America’s Mayor”, the strong yet comforting dude who soothed all of America after 9/11? I want to think he is ill - a sick puppy, just to cut him some slack, but just when you think he’s reached the bottom, he continues to dig, and dig faster and harder than before. SMH

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6535 "2020-11-20T01:19:38Z")

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Breaking news alert from the Washington Post says Georgia hand recount confirms Biden lead.

It’s not so much breaking news to most of us that Biden won, (again) but it is good that these steps are progressing.

> **[Ga. hand recount confirms Biden’s lead; president-elect speaks virtually with...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/11/19/joe-biden-trump-transition-live-updates/#link-JCPAVDRVSBHO5HPY67YXPYPWPY)**
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> The president-elect is seeking to keep a focus on combatting the coronavirus as the president has another day without any scheduled public events.

ETA: I believe access is free as part of election updates

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6536 "2020-11-20T01:21:47Z")

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> [@eschrodinger](#):
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> Breaking news alert from the Washington Post says Georgia hand recount confirms Biden lead.

From the Post:

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> Georgia’s secretary of state ordered the recount as a part of the risk-limiting audit process to ensure the public’s trust in the outcome of the presidential vote in the state, where Biden led by 12,284 votes, according to the audited results. That resulted in a 0.0099 percent variation from the original margin, they said.

So, the change was just less than one one-hundreth of one percent.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6537 "2020-11-20T01:38:13Z")

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FWIW, the AP has now called Georgia for Biden. They were waiting for the results of the recount.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6538 "2020-11-20T02:05:37Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> I think this means he’s a [robot](https://share.getcloudapp.com/DOuonW15)…. .

“I prefer the term “artificial person” myself.”

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6539 "2020-11-20T02:10:11Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> WTF happened to “America’s Mayor”, the strong yet comforting dude who soothed all of America after 9/11?

There is no denying that Giuliani did a good job in the aftermath of 9/11, but he was always a rather nasty and divisive figure as mayor. He’s also the dumbfuck who insisted on putting the [NYC Office of Emergency Management](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NYC_Office_of_Emergency_Management) headquarters in 7 World Trade Center _after_ the WTC had already been attacked in '93. The OEM was meant to co-ordinate the response of fire/police and all other emergency services in the wake of a crisis. Instead, it had to be evacuated while the towers burned.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6540 "2020-11-20T02:10:45Z")

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> **[Judges toss Republican lawsuits in Arizona, Pennsylvania and Georgia | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/arizona-pennsylvania-georgia-lawsuits-trump-biden/index.html)**
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> State judges in Arizona and Pennsylvania and a federal judge in Georgia rejected election-related lawsuits Thursday from Republicans and the Trump campaign.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6541 "2020-11-20T02:27:33Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> FWIW, the AP has now called Georgia for Biden. They were waiting for the results of the recount.

Yay. Biden wins. Woo-hoo.

I guess AP really is the most careful. I had not realized they had waited.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6542 "2020-11-20T02:29:16Z")

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I hope I’m not sidebarring too far astray for the thread but can we just MARVEL at the comedic goldmine that is Ghouliani?

He’s buttdialed adversarial journalists MORE THAN ONCE and left rambling, telling voice mails.

He got duped by Borat and literally caught with his pants down…

The Four Seasons…

…total…  
…uh…landscaping thing (no comedy writer would ever take it this far. TOO absurd).

And now the melting hair coloring…

Seriously imagine pitching this movie. They’d call you ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6543 "2020-11-20T02:30:18Z")

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I was going to say something similar, didn’t want to hijack, but since you responded…

He made some nice speeches after 9/11, but nothing that any competent mayor would not have made. If Dinkins had still been mayor, I don’t think he would have gone on TV and said we should all run for the hills. I had forgotten about this until a few minutes ago, but Time named him Man of the Year. But this was only 3 months after 9/11 before a lot of facts were known. Like the one you mentioned, like the fact the police and fire departments were on different frequencies (not all his fault but he did nothing to fix it), like the fact that he put clean up crews in danger and may have killed some by not following safety guidelines (similar to not wearing masks). He tried to change election laws to give himsef another term. A theme is developing LOL

I lived in NYC at the time, and I remember, as a Mets fan, Mike Piazza hitting a home run to beat the Braves. Rudy was interviewed before that and basically said we can’t let the terrorists win. And at the time I appreciated that. But it didn’t change my life, I was back to work a few weeks before.

Rudy became America’s Mayor beccause of his shameless self-promotion in the months and years after 9/11. I love the fact that it was Joe Biden who said, “Every sentence from Rudy has three parts, a noun, a verb and 9/11.”

Rudy was utterly incompetent in many ways both before and after 9/11. And he has always been the guy he is now.

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**Author:** ![Olfatbut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a183cd/32.png) [@Olfatbut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olfatbut)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6544 "2020-11-20T02:32:24Z")

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I downloaded the recount spreadsheet from the [sos.ga.gov](http://sos.ga.gov) because I hate myself: [https://sos.ga.gov/admin/uploads/county-summary-data.pdf](https://sos.ga.gov/admin/uploads/county-summary-data.pdf)

IIUC, after all the hoopla, the recount in Floyd benefited _Biden_ by 92 votes. The biggest error in absolute vote terms was DeKalb which benefited _Biden_ 560 votes. The entire recount netted T 496 votes in GA.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6545 "2020-11-20T02:49:44Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Yay. Biden wins. Woo-hoo.

Does this justifying opening another bottle of wine? I hope 🍷

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6546 "2020-11-20T02:52:54Z")

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It does. And we can look forward to many more, as lawsuit after recount continues to go this way. I just finished a bottle, I kid you not, five minutes ago. Why not, I’ll open another.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6547 "2020-11-20T02:53:45Z")

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I wasn’t going to have a rye and water tonight, but peer pressure, you know.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6548 "2020-11-20T02:58:02Z")

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I’ve had more to drink in the past few weeks than in the past couple of years.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6549 "2020-11-20T03:11:37Z")

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_ **This is a link to an old article - this Guiliani interview happened in December 2019** _

> **[A Conversation With Rudy Giuliani Over Bloody Marys at the Mark Hotel](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/a-conversation-with-rudy-giuliani-over-bloody-marys.html)**
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> “If they’re investigating me, they’re a\*\*holes,” he said.

And it maybe paywalled. But if you can get to it, it’s truly hysterical - for starters, Guiliani shows up with his fly unzipped. Also he falls over on his way into the restaurant.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6550 "2020-11-20T03:17:05Z")

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He was pulling a Toobin before it was a, well, a thing

_Giuliani is quick to announce that he knows “every block of this city,” but he lives on the Upper East Side and doesn’t linger much across or below the park._

He knows the city about as well as Woody Allen or Sherman in Bonfire of the Vanities

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6551 "2020-11-20T03:23:49Z")

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_As he spoke, he fixed his gaze straight ahead, rarely turning to make eye contact. When his mouth closed, saliva leaked from the corner and crawled down his face through the valley of a wrinkle. He didn’t notice, and it fell onto his sweater._

The comedy gift that keeps on giving, I’ve got people in stitches on my Facebook page.

_He had a few ideas for going after the credibility of witnesses. “The guy that overheard the telephone call,” for instance, “anybody check if the guy has an earpiece? Maybe he didn’t have it in. How old is he? How old is that guy?” There was a possibility that he was deaf, he said, and didn’t know what he heard. “How do we know he isn’t a paranoid schizophrenic?,” he said. “How do we know he isn’t an alcoholic?”_

Sounds like the defense’s response about the affidavits Rudy is waving around

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