# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 330
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6592 "2020-11-20T20:30:18Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Per NBC, Georgia has announced it will certify its votes in favor of Biden. > > I guess Trump has until Tuesday to demand a recount. I forget the exact numbers now, but Georgia’s hand recount netted Trump just under 500 more votes. So it’s looking good for Trump – if every recount nets him an additional 500 votes, then after 25 recounts he’ll be just a few votes ahead of Biden! Winner!! It’s a solid strategy. What could possibly go wrong? Repeat with a few hundred more successive recounts – or however many are necessary for him to win – in 3 or 4 more states, and he gets a second term and stays out of jail! 🤣 And on that note, Brianna Keilar explains why CNN isn’t even wasting time following Rudy’s ridiculous ranting pressers any more – it’s all just become a total farce. Instead of covering Rudy’s presser, Keiler explains what a bunch of ass-clowns Trump’s remaining lawyers are, the good ones having long since deserted, hoping they left soon enough to save their reputations. [https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/11/19/brianna-keilar-roll-the-tapes-trump-legal-team-voter-fraud-nr-vpx.cnn](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/11/19/brianna-keilar-roll-the-tapes-trump-legal-team-voter-fraud-nr-vpx.cnn) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6593 "2020-11-20T20:31:27Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Here’s thing other thing to keep in mind: if he were all alone, nobody would give a shit. The concern is more about the Republican senate and house members who have mostly stayed silent. How can we ever expect a Republican to give up power again if we are learning this one won’t do it until forced? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6594 "2020-11-20T20:35:53Z")
They’re going to stay silent. What are you (we) gonna do about it? ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6595 "2020-11-20T20:39:55Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Correction: Per NBC, Georgia has announced it will certify its votes in favor of Biden. Another correction: **[Georgia secretary of state issues correction, saying certification of its general election results is still under way](https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/11/20/joe-biden-trump-transition-live-updates/)** > **[Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son, has tested positive for the...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/11/20/joe-biden-trump-transition-live-updates/)** > > The president-elect plans to meet with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) in Wilmington, Del., as he continues his transition to the White House. ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6596 "2020-11-20T20:42:46Z")
Question: Does anywhere in the US outside of California have the concept of a [Vexatious Litigant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vexatious_litigation#United_States)? Because if Trump were to be declared one, that would be perfectly reasonable under the circumstances, and also hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6597 "2020-11-20T20:49:26Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > How can we ever expect a Republican to give up power again if we are learning this one won’t do it until forced? Hopefully, because this will end very, very badly for him. As mentioned several times upthread, our entire political and socioeconomic system depends on a basic sense of honesty and integrity, and following laws and norms without having to be legally coerced at every turn. Flouting those basic foundations of democracy is nothing short of treachery. Trump’s only real defense is that his egregious exhibit of pathological narcissism has rendered him functionally insane, which is hardly a commendation for a bright future either in politics or in anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6598 "2020-11-20T20:51:07Z")
I want to know WTF that’s about. I’m scared trump has done something to stop Georgia’s certification. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6599 "2020-11-20T20:53:03Z")
They just got ahead of themselves, announcing the certification before it was officially finished. Give it an hour. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6600 "2020-11-20T20:54:04Z")
Why is it taking so long? The votes have already been counted about a million times is all. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6601 "2020-11-20T20:56:21Z")
It was probably illegal of him to obstruct justice and withhold funding for Ukraine as a favor to Russia - zero fucks were given. The GOP and 73 millions of voters voted for this. Some of them might now be asking some questions, but too late: they were too fucking stupid to rub enough brain cells together to figure out that when you allow someone to behave like a criminal and then vote for him, you’re voting to have your government run like an organized crime business, and that’s what we might end up with now. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6602 "2020-11-20T21:18:05Z")
AFAIUI, he has until 5pm _Sunday_ to request a recount: two days from the time the SoS certifies the results. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6603 "2020-11-20T21:26:23Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > They just got ahead of themselves, announcing the certification before it was officially finished. Give it an hour. > [@Skypist](#): > > Why is it taking so long? The votes have already been counted about a million times is all. As someone who worked for the Government, the motto “no job is finished until the paperwork is done” is true at all bureaucratic levels. It’ll get done by 5pm Eastern as required. What I’m more interested in is what Governor Kemp says at his news conference due at 5pm Eastern. He has until 5pm Saturday to certify the results/electors. I know what he should be saying–I am wondering what he will be saying… Press on. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6604 "2020-11-20T21:29:27Z")
**[Georgia secretary of state certifies results, including Biden as the winner of the state’s presidential vote](https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/11/20/joe-biden-trump-transition-live-updates/)** > **[Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son, has tested positive for the...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/11/20/joe-biden-trump-transition-live-updates/)** > > The president-elect plans to meet with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) in Wilmington, Del., as he continues his transition to the White House. > **[Georgia Officials Certify Joe Biden’s Victory Over Trump](https://www.wsj.com/articles/bidens-georgia-victory-over-trump-certified-by-secretary-of-state-11605894057)** > > Georgia’s governor and secretary of state certified the Nov. 3 election results Friday, declaring President-elect Joe Biden the winner of the state with 16 Electoral College votes. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6605 "2020-11-20T21:47:58Z")
> [@Aspidistra](#): > > Question: Does anywhere in the US outside of California have the concept of a [Vexatious Litigant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vexatious_litigation#United_States)? > > Because if Trump were to be declared one, that would be perfectly reasonable under the circumstances, and also hilarious. OMG. I am both amused that this is a thing, and surprised that one of my mom’s cousins hasn’t made the official California list. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6606 "2020-11-20T22:04:50Z")
Even Fox News has the hard-hitting headline for Georgia… > **[Georgia certifies Joe Biden victory in 2020 presidential election](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-certifies-joe-biden-victory-2020-election)** > > Biden has 306 electoral votes to Trump’s 232. What’re Trump’s fans going to do now? Newsmax? OAN? Parler? Fine - let’em go to the far margin and cocoon in their pathetic misinformation bubble. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6607 "2020-11-20T22:10:45Z")
I wish to subscribe to your newsletter, sir. > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Bo’s Crazy 2020 Election Theory ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6608 "2020-11-20T22:36:41Z")
> [@Aspidistra](#): > > Question: Does anywhere in the US outside of California have the concept of a [Vexatious Litigant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vexatious_litigation#United_States)? > > Because if Trump **were to be declared** one, that would be perfectly reasonable under the circumstances, and also hilarious. My bold. There’s that vexatious passive voice. 🧐 No actor. WHO is going to declare Donnie to be one? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6609 "2020-11-20T22:46:19Z")
Kemp certified! > **[Georgia officials certify election results showing Biden win](https://apnews.com/article/georgia-certify-election-joe-biden-ea8f867d740f3d7d42d0a55c1aef9e69)** > > ATLANTA (AP) — Georgia's governor and top elections official on Friday certified results showing Joe Biden won the presidential race over Republican President Donald Trump, bringing the state one step closer to wrapping up an election fraught with... > [@](#): > > Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger certified results reported by the state’s 159 counties following a meticulous hand count of the 5 million ballots cast in the race. The results show Biden with 2.47 million votes, President Donald Trump with 2.46 million votes and Libertarian Jo Jorgensen with 62,138. That leaves Biden leading by a margin of 12,670 votes or 0.25%. > > Later Friday, Republican Gov. Brian Kemp certified the state’s slate of 16 presidential electors, his spokesman Cody Hall said. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6610 "2020-11-20T22:52:45Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Kemp certified! So now we need at least one more of the “contested” ones to certify and then trump can probably go pound sand? ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6611 "2020-11-20T22:54:10Z")
Well, you know, the passive voice does have some uses. Like for instance when you’re speculating about a foreign legal system in which you’re not exactly sure which person does what. I see your 🧐 and raise you a 👵 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=329) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=331)