# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6612 "2020-11-20T22:55:22Z")

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Biden has 270 electoral votes without MI and PA; it’s over. Trump lost.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6613 "2020-11-20T23:03:56Z")

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Oh, I thought trump needed to “flip” (subvert the vote of the people) at least three. Obviously I am not any good at math or remembering the different numbers.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6614 "2020-11-20T23:06:46Z")

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Trump would need all three, yes. Biden does not.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6615 "2020-11-20T23:09:18Z")

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OMG. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6616 "2020-11-20T23:12:58Z")

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There are still 63 EVs in uncertified battleground states: PA, MI, WI, AZ, and NV. NV has complete Democratic control (Governor and both houses) so is the safest, so 56 EVs possible for messing with. With Nevada, Biden is at 249 so he needs 21 more EVs certified. Trump would need to flip 3 of the 4 to prevent that.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6617 "2020-11-20T23:20:28Z")

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Ugh. This is killing my stomach.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6618 "2020-11-20T23:26:16Z")

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It’s not over because the Orange Peril to Democracy, having lost every attempt so far to challenge the vote in the courts, is now openly engaged in treason by trying to forcibly arm-twist state legislatures to ignore the certified democratic vote and appoint electors who will vote for him regardless, contrary to law.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6619 "2020-11-20T23:37:09Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> What’re Trump’s fans going to do now? Newsmax? OAN? Parler? Fine - let’em go to the far margin and cocoon in their pathetic misinformation bubble.

[Trump TV](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tv-network-fox-news-1544027)? There’s speculation that Trump will start his own network. [Howard Stern](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/howard-stern-says-trump-tv-would-fail-within-a-year-like-all-the-other-businesses-2020-11-17) and [others](https://www.indiewire.com/2020/11/creating-trump-tv-not-easy-task-1234598314/#!) say it won’t last a year. Advertisers won’t support something so divisive.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6620 "2020-11-21T00:02:44Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> [Trump TV](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tv-network-fox-news-1544027)? There’s speculation that Trump will start his own network. [Howard Stern](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/howard-stern-says-trump-tv-would-fail-within-a-year-like-all-the-other-businesses-2020-11-17) and [others](https://www.indiewire.com/2020/11/creating-trump-tv-not-easy-task-1234598314/#!) say it won’t last a year. Advertisers won’t support something so divisive.

Catheter adds, etc. Something will air on it.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6621 "2020-11-21T00:13:34Z")

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Don Jr tests +

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6622 "2020-11-21T00:15:47Z")

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Morning-after pills that only work on cousin-babies?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6623 "2020-11-21T00:16:54Z")

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I hope he doesn’t die. I was looking forward to seeing him break down when they take him to jail.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6624 "2020-11-21T00:19:47Z")

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And the Michigan GOP leaders are out of their meeting at the WH and affirm they will follow the normal procedure and respect the results of the vote.

Twitter storm in 3…2…

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6625 "2020-11-21T00:21:23Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> And the Michigan GOP leaders are out of their meeting at the WH and affirm they will follow the normal procedure and respect the results of the vote.

They say they told him they “see no reason” for the election/electoral-process to change.

If they actually said that, I’d be surprised. I do think that ultimately, Michigan will send 16 Electors to elect Joe Biden. I am a Michigan resident and while the Repubs have been horrible here, I don’t think they can change it.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6626 "2020-11-21T00:24:24Z")

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Does it make me evil if I hope he spends a few dark nights gasping for breath all alone in an ICU… before making a full recovery so he can eventually be seen breaking down while being taken to jail.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6627 "2020-11-21T00:28:26Z")

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Given what they said after the meeting I agree. Biden will get Michigan’s 16 EVs.

I’m just curious how long until DJT, Ghouliani or that wackadoodle Sidney Powell lashes out at them.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6628 "2020-11-21T00:32:56Z")

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> [@](#):
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> After the meeting, Shirkey and Chatfield [said](https://twitter.com/SenMikeShirkey/status/1329925843053899780) in a joint statement they had “not yet been made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election in Michigan.”

> **[After Trump meeting, Michigan GOP leaders say Biden's win still stands](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/20/michigan-gop-dc-trump-election-438690)**
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> The Michigan lawmakers said they had "not yet been made aware of any information that would change the outcome."

> <https://twitter.com/SenMikeShirkey/status/1329925843053899780/photo/1>

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6629 "2020-11-21T00:33:44Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Given what they said after the meeting I agree. Biden will get Michigan’s 16 EVs.

Yes, he will. I don’t believe two groups of Electors will be sent, either. Just the Democratic ones.

Michigan does not allow for changes, either. And it wasn’t close. He won 51%-48%. Much more than Trump won in 2016.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6630 "2020-11-21T00:49:06Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> > [@Mahaloth](#):
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> > > [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> > > [Trump TV](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tv-network-fox-news-1544027)? There’s speculation that Trump will start his own network. [Howard Stern](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/howard-stern-says-trump-tv-would-fail-within-a-year-like-all-the-other-businesses-2020-11-17) and [others](https://www.indiewire.com/2020/11/creating-trump-tv-not-easy-task-1234598314/#!) say it won’t last a year. Advertisers won’t support something so divisive.
> > 
> > Catheter adds, etc. Something will air on it.
> 
> Morning-after pills that only work on cousin-babies?

Rolling Thunder European Regularity Tonic?

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6631 "2020-11-21T01:27:53Z")

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We need to start a thread on what advertisers will put what products on TTV (titty-V).

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