# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6692 "2020-11-21T09:48:02Z")

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Who cares about intentions? Actions - or inaction - are the only things that count.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6693 "2020-11-21T10:48:23Z")

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Philosopher Carlin: You gotta wanna.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6694 "2020-11-21T11:57:23Z")

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> **[Here’s when Biden’s win becomes official — and how Trump has been trying to...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/11/12/vote-certification-deadlines-ga-mi-wi-nv-az-pa/?arc404=true)**
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> The president tried to slow the certification of election results in Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada and Pennsylvania, but met with defeat after defeat. Here's what comes next.

> Biden’s election is not official until the states certify their votes and the electoral college formally casts its ballots in mid-December. Trump’s campaign has sought to derail that process by filing lawsuits alleging problems with the election and seeking to stop the certification in some states. Legal experts say [there is little Trump can do](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-challenges-state-count/2020/11/10/45148fac-2378-11eb-8672-c281c7a2c96e_story.html) to head off Biden’s win, but Republicans could [seek to delay](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/republican-pressure-states-election/2020/11/11/edd054fe-2441-11eb-952e-0c475972cfc0_story.html) the process.

Geez Louise, may have to amend the thread title to _month_. 🙄

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6695 "2020-11-21T12:28:56Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> American” can mean various things. I assume Joe was generously giving 71 million traitors a chance to come back to being Americans, when they’re ready.
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> In short, he’s optimistic that people can change. Maybe he’s right. I hope so.
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> (Okay, “71 million traitors” was a little strong. How about “71 million traitor enablers and supporters”?)

After sleeping on it, I’d like to submit an affidavit 🙂 to rescind my change of heart — to reaffirm my original statement. It is 71 million — actually, 73 million — traitors after all.

Can I do that? Or is it too late? 🙂

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6696 "2020-11-21T12:29:30Z")

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I make all the rules, so yes, this is allowed.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6697 "2020-11-21T13:16:26Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Philosopher Carlin: You gotta wanna

I used to love that bit! It was about seven sins just to commit a sin!

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6698 "2020-11-21T13:17:20Z")

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Last lawsuit in AZ was dismissed (the one with two votes at stake). Maricopa County Certified their results:

> The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, the elected body that oversees elections in Arizona’s most populous county, voted unanimously on Friday to approve the results of this month’s general election.
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> The majority-Republican supervisors did so after spending hours on Friday afternoon asking election officials who oversaw the voting process numerous questions related to election fairness, security, technology and oversight.
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> Before the vote, the supervisors, four Republicans and one Democrat, said they were satisfied with the answers.
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> Republican chairman Clint Hickman said there was no proof of fraud or misconduct in the election and he was confident that voters were provided with a fair election. He said that he “learned a lot about the character of people in this community” on the matter, and he would not “violate the law or deviate from my own moral compass,” even though he said that’s what some had pressured him to do.
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> “No matter how you voted, this election was administered with integrity, transparency, and most importantly in accordance with Arizona state laws,” Hickman said.

Only the wingnuts in Mohave County haven’t certified their results, but they are supposed to on Monday.

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6699 "2020-11-21T13:31:49Z")

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However, Pima County not so rosy - vote was certified 3-2 along party lines, with the two Republicans voting no because “blah blah blah Sharpie blah blah blah”.

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6700 "2020-11-21T13:33:37Z")

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PA Lt. Gov. Fetterman is still my hero of this election:

> **[Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. John Fetterman Asks For $1 Million Election Fraud...](https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/john-fetterman-election-fraud-reward-request-texas-lt-governor/)**
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> When Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick offered $1 million for evidence of voter fraud, Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. Fetterman took him up on the request.

Especially for the end of his tweet to Patrick: “p.s. - the Cowboys blow”.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6701 "2020-11-21T14:06:45Z")

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If I offer that it was six, not seven, will you stipulate that it wasn’t a nitpick, but rather a testimony to my adoration of GC ?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6702 "2020-11-21T14:20:15Z")

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Take Donald Trump’s name out of it.

In a society where self-rule has been the norm since even before our nation was founded, few things say “I’m a citizen” like voting does. That’s why when some apolitical types say that they are not going to vote, I remind them that voting isn’t just a right, it’s a responsibility. It’s like paying taxes: the more people don’t do it, the more everyone collectively suffers.

Anyone who is actively supporting ways to invalidate voting is advocating replacing democracy with a government in which I have no representation. In so doing, they are also invalidating my, your, and our citizenship – without my permission. Whatever regime they replace self-governance with is going to illegitimately force me to live by policies that we collectively did not consent to. That is grand theft, the taking of something highly valuable without my permission and presumably, with no intention of returning it anytime soon.

Someone who advocates theft of my choice and my personal representation and citizenship in our society is indeed my enemy.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6703 "2020-11-21T15:45:19Z")

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> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> Especially for the end of his tweet to Patrick: “p.s. - the Cowboys blow”.

Hahahhaha, I’m not a football fan, but in light of that news, this Texan says:  
GO EAGLES!!!  
GO STEELERS!!!

Dan Patrick is and always has been a fucktard.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6704 "2020-11-21T16:15:22Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> I don’t personally think Trump is an authoritarian. That’s not his style; I don’t think he has it in him.

🤔

Yeah, you’re wrong. The man has tinpot despot written all over him.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6705 "2020-11-21T16:17:26Z")

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This could use a cite. To me, when Trump got over 70 million votes, the Republicans got in line. (I have no cite for my claim, either.)

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6706 "2020-11-21T16:25:01Z")

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I’m confused.

> **[Georgia governor calls for audit after state certifies election results](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgia-recount-brian-kemp-audit-certified-election-results/)**
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> Georgia's secretary of state said earlier Friday that Joe Biden had been certified as the winner of Georgia's 16 electoral votes.

> Georgia’s Republican Governor Brian Kemp certified the state’s election results Friday, saying that now that the results are certified, the Trump campaign can pursue other legal options to call for a recount.

So he certified the results, but now leaves the door open for yet another recount?

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6707 "2020-11-21T16:26:05Z")

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> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> He is making me very angry…I know I have an extra explosive space modulator around here somewhere…need a Trump-shattering kaboom…

Now I’m thinking of that time the Oregon Highway Department blew up a whale.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6708 "2020-11-21T16:42:07Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> So he certified the results, but now leaves the door open for yet another recount?

SoS Raff was required by law to hand-count audit one of the races on the state ballot. He chose the POTUS race for many obvious reasons (including prolly trying to save Georgia some money; the state and/or counties pay for recounts not the requestor). When that was done he certified the results.

The results then went to Gov. Kemp who had 48 hours after the SoS certified to himself certify the results. His certification starts a 48 hour clock for a candidate defeated by a margin of .5% or less to request a recount. Said recount would not be a hand-count, it would be scanning the ballots back thru the machines again.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6709 "2020-11-21T16:50:09Z")

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The Firehose of Fiction tends to make it extremely hard to point to just one thing, but … in this case … Exhibit A:

> **[Analysts blast Trump's desired military parade as 'North Korea-style' event](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-s-desired-military-parade-analysts-blast-plan-north-korea-n845626)**
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> Lawmakers, some historians and at least one former senior military official swiftly panned Trump’s request for a celebration in the streets of Washington

Ignoring for the moment … rule of law … election rat-fuckery … using taxpayer dollars to blackmail an adversary, under existential threat, if they don’t ‘find’ (ie, cook up) damaging material on your likely opponent in the upcoming election, obstructing justice, threatening to jail your political enemies, vilifying the press until they receive unprecedented death threats, attacking every institution of democracy with an eye toward the populace trusting nobody and nothing _but_ yourself …

Shall I/we go on ?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6710 "2020-11-21T17:17:29Z")

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If you are having a bad day, just realize Trump can see them building Biden’s inauguration pavilion/platform on the lawn outside the White House.

[This can’t feel good.](https://i.redd.it/r1k4y4arpk061.jpg)

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6711 "2020-11-21T17:22:26Z")

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I’m guessing Trump views it as a gallows (and not his).

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UdL9wQdWZ9g/maxresdefault.jpg "Blazing Saddles - Boris") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdL9wQdWZ9g)

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