# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6753 "2020-11-22T02:08:20Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> And if you support Donald Trump, you aren’t an American?
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> ~Max

Ehh. Your status as an American has earned some scrutiny, that much is patent.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6754 "2020-11-22T02:09:58Z")

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[From Politico:](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/21/federal-judge-tosses-trump-suit-over-pennsylvania-election-results-439010)

> Brann was appointed by President Barack Obama, but is regarded as a conservative judge and an atypical Obama nominee. Brann, who was selected by Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), served as a regional Republican Party chairman in Pennsylvania for about a decade before being nominated to the federal bench.

I’ve also read that he’s a member of the Federalist Society, so, yeah, I’d guess he’s pretty conservative.  
Not that various parts of the far-right press appear to have noticed that fact…

Huh. Speaking of Toomey, this just showed up on my twitter feed:

> Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA): “President Trump has exhausted all plausible legal options to challenge the result of the presidential race in Pennsylvania. … I congratulate President-elect Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris on their victory.”

[Here.](https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1330330993820119048)

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6755 "2020-11-22T02:29:10Z")

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So … according to the article, Rudy and the Keystone Kounsellors will appeal _toot sweet_ to the Third Circuit (presumably with a request to order a stay of the certification). Especially given the tone of the ruling, does the court _have_ to accept the appeal? Or can they say, “We think your appeal is pig doots\* and consign it to the dumper?” Also, it infers that Kathy Boockvar (PA SoS) plans to issue her certification on Monday, shortly after the deadline for counties to submit theirs; if she does so before any stay order, does that render the appeal moot?

(IA[Obviously]NAL — for which the legal profession should be profoundly grateful.)

\* With thanks to Dave Barry.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6756 "2020-11-22T02:35:18Z")

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Maybe my lawyer friend Karen will get back to me tonight, but I am pretty sure a court only has to take up an appeal if they want to, if there is a valid reason to do so

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6757 "2020-11-22T02:47:46Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> My favorite part is the very end
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> Defendants’ motion to dismiss the First Amended Complaint are granted with prejudice. Leave to amend is denied. “Among the grounds that could justify a denial of leave to amend are undue delay, bad faith, dilatory motive,prejudice and futility”.

And the horse you rode in on!

> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Rudy and the Keystone Kounsellors

Beautiful.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6758 "2020-11-22T02:55:03Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Didja get a picture? Why not?

Because I’m not supposed to photograph things on the workroom floor.

Anyway, not redacting the voter’s name would be a problem, and I don’t know how to do that.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6759 "2020-11-22T03:04:44Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> Huh. Speaking of Toomey, this just showed up on my twitter feed:
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> > Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA): “President Trump has exhausted all plausible legal options to challenge the result of the presidential race in Pennsylvania. … I congratulate President-elect Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris on their victory.”
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> [Here.](https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1330330993820119048)

Heh. That reminds me of a David Frye political comedy album I had back in the Seventies.

_Ted Kennedy_ “I, uhh, came out against the [Vietnam] war on Moratorium Day. And it was, uhh, quite early on Moratorium Day, it was well before eleven o’clock in the morning. Not like some political opportunists who didn’t come out until two or three in the afternoon.”

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6760 "2020-11-22T03:34:05Z")

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Top story on the AP right now: [In blistering ruling, judge throws out Trump suit in Pa.](https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-constitutions-pennsylvania-87eaf4df86d5f6ccc343c3385c9ba86c)

Trump continues to tell lies and flail around:

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> Trump tweeted after the ruling that he couldn’t understand why Biden was forming a Cabinet when the president’s investigators had found “hundreds of thousands of fraudulent votes,” a baseless claim for which Trump has supplied no evidence.
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> Giuliani and a Trump campaign lawyer said in a statement that they welcomed the dismissal because it would allow them to appeal up to the U.S. Supreme Court faster, where Trump has repeatedly said he feels he has sympathetic justices. [But, the justices heard a case](https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-pennsylvania-elections-coronavirus-pandemic-campaigns-8238b4fdb6e2b0ebddfbf619272f8562) from the state before the election, over a three-day extension on mail-in ballots, and allowed the extension over the objections of the GOP.

To balance that out a bit:

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> Sen. Pat Toomey, a Pennsylvania Republican who had a hand in placing Brann on the bench during the Obama administration, said the ruling showed Trump had exhausted all possible legal avenues in the state and went on to congratulate Biden on his victory. He called Brann “a longtime conservative Republican whom I know to be a fair and unbiased jurist.”

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6761 "2020-11-22T03:54:40Z")

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Yeah, I’m very skeptical that they’ll get any traction in the Supreme Court. I know judges can’t be impartial on all issues but this case is so obviously corrupt and undemocratic that I would be surprised if any Supreme Court Justice took these arguments seriously.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6762 "2020-11-22T04:00:00Z")

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I won’t be surprised when Kavanaugh treats them seriously. That guy’s a fucking joke.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6763 "2020-11-22T04:03:07Z")

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I _can’t wait_ to see the look on trump’s face when Barrett tells him to pack his bags.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6764 "2020-11-22T04:04:50Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> “President Trump has exhausted all plausible legal options to challenge the result of the presidential race in Pennsylvania.

It’s very generous of Toomey to imply that the legal options he’s chosen so far were plausible.

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**Author:** ![erpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e56c9b/32.png) [@erpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erpa)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6765 "2020-11-22T04:07:39Z")

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Matthew W Brann is a republican Republican judge appointed by Obama. Take a minute and soak that in as it is so satisfying.

> **[Matthew W. Brann](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_W._Brann)**
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> Pages for logged out editors learn more
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> 			 
> Matthew William Brann (born July 25, 1965) is the Chief United States district judge of the United States District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania.
> Brann was born in Elmira, New York, on July 25, 1965. He received his Bachelor of Arts degree in 1987 from the University of Notre Dame. He received his Juris Doctor in 1990 from the Dickinson School of Law of the Pennsylvania State University.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6766 "2020-11-22T04:10:44Z")

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Hey, Judge Brann and I have the same hometown!

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6767 "2020-11-22T04:22:24Z")

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Trump has requested a recount in Georgia.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6768 "2020-11-22T04:27:24Z")

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[https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/21/trump-state-legislatures-overturn-election-results-439031](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/21/trump-state-legislatures-overturn-election-results-439031)

## Trump calls on GOP state legislatures to overturn election results.

Clearly he doesnt believe in Democracy.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6769 "2020-11-22T04:28:45Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Trump has requested a recount in Georgia

Well, of course he has.

Paid for by the taxpayers of Georgia, of course. I hope in the runup to the Senate elections that bit gets well publicized.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6770 "2020-11-22T04:31:15Z")

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What a fucking moron.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6771 "2020-11-22T05:34:36Z")

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That has got to be one of my favorite pics of him. Number 1 on my list was him tripping over his bottom lip while stomping out of the interview, but this one is right up there in the top 10.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6772 "2020-11-22T06:48:46Z")

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In the mail today, I received a newspaper. An actual, full-sized newspaper. I forget the name of it, but the headline screamed out the news that the election was far from decided. Other articles told of various “righteous” lawsuits in this or that state. I tossed it in the trash. it was addressed to “Current Resident,” so I suspect this is being mailed out to a lot of people.

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