# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6773 "2020-11-22T06:56:17Z")

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It occurs to me that if Republicans think the election has been stolen they must be thinking what is to stop the Democrats from stealing the runoff elections in Georgia? And bearing in mind that they think Democrats have an invisible and foolproof way to cheat (that Trump somehow didn’t think of first), what is the point of going out to vote when you’re up against all these fake and/or dead Democrats who can sneak ballots in at the last second and/or after the deadline? If you “know” the game is rigged, do you play anyway? It will be interesting to see.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6774 "2020-11-22T06:58:10Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> I tossed it in the trash. it was addressed to “Current Resident,” so I suspect this is being mailed out to a lot of people.

According to one of those web sites that tracks these things, “Current Resident” is one of the most popular persons’ names in the United States.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6775 "2020-11-22T07:02:42Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> It occurs to me that if Republicans think the election has been stolen they must be thinking what is to stop the Democrats from stealing the runoff elections in Georgia? And bearing in mind that they think Democrats have an invisible and foolproof way to cheat . . .

This is rich, being in Georgia, where Stacey Abrams so blatantly and obviously (and so easily) (nearly) stole the election for Governor. 🙄 So amazing that Kemp managed to be honestly elected despite all that!

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6776 "2020-11-22T07:03:33Z")

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No; Kemp and Raff are both in on it.

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6777 "2020-11-22T09:19:52Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Especially given the tone of the ruling, does the court _have_ to accept the appeal? Or can they say, “We think your appeal is pig doots\* and consign it to the dumper?” Also, it infers that Kathy Boockvar (PA SoS) plans to issue her certification on Monday, shortly after the deadline for counties to submit theirs; if she does so before any stay order, does that render the appeal moot?

> [@Mike\_Mabes](#):
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> Maybe my lawyer friend Karen will get back to me tonight, but I am pretty sure a court only has to take up an appeal if they want to, if there is a valid reason to do so

Very generally, a litigant can take an appeal to an intermediate appellate court as of right. That is, for most cases, if you file an appeal with the next court above the trial court, and you’ve followed the rules for an appeal, you’ll be entitled to have the court of appeals decide it. It’s not discretionary – intermediate courts generally don’t get to decide which cases to take. Again, very generally, only supreme courts have discretion to decide which cases to hear.

But, as noted, if the trial court’s judgment is not stayed, and the election results are certified, the case will likely become moot. Whether a stay is granted can depend in part on your likelihood of prevailing. If there’s enough time for expedited briefing, there could also just be a very swift decision.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6778 "2020-11-22T12:59:01Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> It’s Zeno’s Administration - the closer we get to the end, the longer it gets.

So true!  
It’s like passing the event horizon approaching a black hole, getting stretched very thin as time dilates for the victims.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6779 "2020-11-22T15:31:47Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Paid for by the taxpayers of Georgia, of course. I hope in the runup to the Senate elections that bit gets well publicized.

I thought the tump campaign had to pay for the recount. And the funds were requested in advance. Am I off-base on this?

> [@Senegoid](#):
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> According to one of those web sites that tracks these things, “Current Resident” is one of the most popular persons’ names in the United States.

Yes, “Current” as a unisex first name is pushing the formerly-fave, gender-specific _Jason, Emily, Ethan, Charlotte_ out of the top spots. I think we’re going to see a trend toward neutral, culturally and ethnically baggage-free baby names in the future. Look for kids named _Table, Apple, Carpet_, and for the whimsically inclined, _Kibble, Postage Stamp, Casserole_. The possibilities are endless. [/weird tangent]

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6780 "2020-11-22T15:36:33Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I thought the tump campaign had to pay for the recount. And the funds were requested in advance. Am I off-base on this?

That is Wisconsin. In GA it is paid by the state.

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Yes, “Current” as a unisex first name is pushing the formerly-fave, gender-specific _Jason, Emily, Ethan, Charlotte_ out of the top spots. I think we’re going to see a trend toward neutral, culturally and ethnically baggage-free baby names in the future. Look for kids named _Table, Apple, Carpet_ , and for the whimsically inclined, _Kibble, Postage Stamp, Casserole_ . The possibilities are endless.

Republicans are leaning towards names like _person, woman, man, camera, TV_

I keep getting phone calls from somebody name “Spam Risk”. Parents must have been Monty Python fans.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6781 "2020-11-22T15:37:37Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I thought the tump campaign had to pay for the recount. And the funds were requested in advance. Am I off-base on this?

Each state has different rules. Wisconsin requires the candidate to pay for the recount, which the Trump campaign has done. Georgia apparently doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6782 "2020-11-22T15:44:21Z")

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> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> That is Wisconsin. In GA it is paid by the state.

Oh. Ok.

> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> Republicans are leaning towards names like _person, woman, man, camera, TV_

😅

Names that Der Trumpenstiltskin has proved he can remember.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6783 "2020-11-22T15:57:44Z")

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That’s the good news; the bad news is that Trump will inevitably become more desperate, and as he does, he will force the Republicans to publicly take a stand and confront him. So far, few have been willing to do that.

Each time he pushes boundaries and each time the Republicans avoid challenging him, he essentially creates new boundaries and establishes new precedents - precedents that will be remembered by Trump’s ghosts who will remain even after he makes his exit.

We’re fortunate that Donald Trump is a little too much like Sonny Corleone, sometimes too hotheaded for his own good. The next wannabe dictator may be a lot less like Sonny Corleone…and a lot more like Michael.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6784 "2020-11-22T18:42:24Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> So far, few have been willing to do that.

And even the few who’ve done so - like James Lankford - [haven’t really created a whole metric shit-ton of traction.](https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/16/politics/james-lankford-biden-intelligence-briefing/index.html)

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> On Saturday, Lankford told the conservative outlet [**Newsmax**](https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/997083/220): "I’m not in a hurry, necessarily, to get Joe Biden these briefings. It’s been interesting how the media – national media, not this network but others – have twisted this term ‘step in.’ "

Heh - slummin, there, Jimbo? (Re: the bolded)

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> Asked when the drop-dead date is for Trump, Lankford pointed to December 14, which is when the Electoral College casts its ballots, “when the whole country is certified.”

Right - thanks for “stepping in”, then.

ETA: - Heh, more like, “_on_ it”?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6785 "2020-11-22T18:44:38Z")

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Their voters, are Trump’s voters. It is the Trump party, not the Republican party.

Period.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6786 "2020-11-22T19:28:22Z")

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No kidding, which makes it such a feeble, transparent joke with “stepping in” gestures.

There has to be more noise generated from all this toxic feet-dragging, like from (D. - La.) Rep. Cedric Richmond, a couple hours ago.  
[https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/527073-richmond-says-gop-reluctant-to-stand-up-and-tell-the-emperor-he](https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/527073-richmond-says-gop-reluctant-to-stand-up-and-tell-the-emperor-he)

He shouldn’t be surprised, though, about Trump’s hold over his party - he should be aware that Trump’s base holds things “in check”.  
Regardless, more D., more, well, everybody, has to start seriously pushing pack on all this horseshit so that a certain someone won’t be looking at a certain visit from US Marshalls on Jan. 21. Or:

> **[What happens if Trump refuses to concede US election?](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/what-happens-if-trump-refuses-to-concede-election-b1672456.html)**
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> US will enter uncharted territory if the president refuses to leave White House 

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> The US constitution makes no mention of how a president should be removed if they lose an election and refuse to hand over power to their opponent. So, it is hard to say if anyone would have the appetite to send the FBI, or navy seals, or whatever law enforcement agency, storming into the West Wing to arrest a recently defeated Donald Trump.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6787 "2020-11-22T19:42:58Z")

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Yes, in fact the Dems packed every state legislature, now has 70 seats in the Senate and has a 66% majority in the House. 😈 💩

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6788 "2020-11-22T20:57:02Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Look for kids named _Table, Apple, Carpet_ , and for the whimsically inclined, _Kibble, Postage Stamp, Casserole_ . The possibilities are endless. [/weird tangent]

Among Republicans, _Kompromat_ will become a very popular name.

(ETA: And when did “Sidney” become a girl’s name? As in Sidney Powell, one of Trump’s lawyers.)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6789 "2020-11-22T20:58:12Z")

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As my grandma liked to say, even a stopped clock is right twice a day: [Chris Christie calls Trump legal team a 'national embarrassment' [Video]](https://www.aol.com/news/chris-christie-calls-trump-legal-165917074.html)

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6790 "2020-11-22T20:59:44Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> it is hard to say if anyone would have the appetite to send the FBI, or navy seals, or whatever law enforcement agency, storming into the West Wing to arrest a recently defeated Donald Trump.

Biden’s on record as saying that the United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House. So I expect he’d have the appetite, all right.

I doubt Trump will let it come to that. I expect he’ll go “on vacation” and just kind of happen not to be there on January 20.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6791 "2020-11-22T21:01:28Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> (ETA: And when did “Sidney” become a girl’s name? As in Sidney Powell, one of Trump’s lawyers.)

I can tell you that just yesterday, I spoke with a lady named Sidney who is in her early 60s.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/6792 "2020-11-22T21:08:21Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I doubt Trump will let it come to that. I expect he’ll go “on vacation” and just kind of happen not to be there on January 20.

He will host a rally as a counter-inauguration. I bet he even gets sworn in again.

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