# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 354
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7075 "2020-11-28T01:08:24Z")
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4v8ZhN-djhI/hqdefault.jpg "Who will win the presidential cup? | Sammy J (S3 Ep 40)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v8ZhN-djhI) Best summary of the election I’ve seen. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7076 "2020-11-28T01:12:35Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Note that this blistering decision came from a Trump appointee. This restores some of my faith in our institutions. > > I imagine Trump is on the phone with McConnell right now screaming at him: “I thought these guys were supposed to be on my side!” It’s increasingly clear that Trump’s people in positions of power are recognizing that his goose is fully cooked and are simply moving past him and thinking about their own futures. If the Supremes agree to take up his appeal, I fully expect it to be rejected 8-1 or 7-2. And McConnell could care less about Trump’s rage, he got everything he wanted from Trump. He may have to humor him a little longer for the sake of the Georgia Senate elections, but once those are over he won’t give Trump another thought. _Sic semper losers._ ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7077 "2020-11-28T02:14:23Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > I fully expect it to be rejected 8-1 or 7-2 I suspect they will not hear the case as it is so lame, but if they do, I would expect it to go 7-2. Amy Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh will vote to take it and overturn the election, but the others won’t. I would bet they reject it and send it back to lower court rulings, which will be that it stands the way it is. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7078 "2020-11-28T02:37:43Z")
I am as skeptical as anyone of Brett and Barrett, but in this case, I don’t see how they could possibly vote to overturn. What possible legal argument, no matter how twisted, could there be? I think the question is moot, isn’t a 5-4 vote needed just to hear the case? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7079 "2020-11-28T02:42:24Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > I think the question is moot, isn’t a 5-4 vote needed just to hear the case? I think a vote of just 4 justices is sufficient. But there isn’t “a case”, as such, for the Supreme Court to hear. There are dozens of separate and unrelated cases, virtually every one of which has been laughed out of court and declared to be without merit. IANAL, but ISTM that the Supremes can’t grant certiorari to some delusional Grand Conspiracy theory that the election was “stolen” from Dear Leader. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7080 "2020-11-28T02:45:44Z")
We will see just how bold Barrett will be. I don’t even Brett is going to vote to hear this, will she be the lone dissenter? If so, we are more fucked that we already think we are, as far as cases in the future are concerned. ETA If I am in time, there is one case, the one PA just rejected. The others have even less merit ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7081 "2020-11-28T02:56:57Z")
The PA suit was rejected firmly and completely (by a judge who is a Trump appointee, no less). And reversing PA wouldn’t make any difference to the election outcome anyway. The Orange Peril is wasting everybody’s time and stoking divisiveness and rancor among his loyal base, and that’s the whole idea of this reckless exercise. He doesn’t give a shit about his country and never has. His only objective is to have a loyal following of rubes that can support his future career as a far-right shit-disturber. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7082 "2020-11-28T03:01:18Z")
Been waiting for a chance to use this new meme, I’ve been collecting them lately. Give me any situation, I’ll have a pop culture referencce for it. Here is another, for Trump, about all the court cases [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/P8E7_u2qgjE/maxresdefault.jpg "learn it know it live it") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8E7_u2qgjE) ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7083 "2020-11-28T03:09:04Z")
A couple more for Trump. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/T0HfVZSmGW8/hqdefault.jpg "Homer backs into bushes") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0HfVZSmGW8) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/b9434BoGkNQ/maxresdefault.jpg "That's All Folks HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9434BoGkNQ) ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7084 "2020-11-28T03:12:25Z")
The even sadder part is that Trump’s idiot lawyer (Jenna Ellis) actually retweeted that garbage. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7085 "2020-11-28T03:13:50Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > A couple more for Trump. > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0HfVZSmGW8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0HfVZSmGW8) > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9434BoGkNQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9434BoGkNQ) And to throw one back in his face. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/krxU5Y9lCS8/maxresdefault.jpg "The Rolling Stones - You Can’t Always Get What You Want (Official Lyric Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krxU5Y9lCS8) ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7086 "2020-11-28T03:18:44Z")
The sad thing is, he is not going to get what he wants, a 2nd term, but he’ll probably get what he needs - the ability to live the life of a rich man until he dies, in this country probably, maybe overseas. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7087 "2020-11-28T03:36:01Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/46K1b0fk7vk/maxresdefault.jpg "That's Democracy Folks! Green Screen") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46K1b0fk7vk) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7088 "2020-11-28T03:39:56Z")
No fraud? Dissatisfied Trump donor sues to recover his donation to election challenges. > **[Donor In Trump's Election 'Fraud' Fight Sues To Snatch Back His $2.5 Million...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fred-eshelman-trump-contribution-lawsuit-election-fraud_n_5fc033e5c5b63d1b770aa2bf?ri18n=true)** > > Venture capitalist Fred Eshelman blasts group that launched failed court cases that couldn't come up with any evidence of rigged voting. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7089 "2020-11-28T03:51:09Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Venture capitalist Fred Eshelman blasts group that launched failed court cases that couldn’t come up with any evidence of rigged voting. From the story. > Instead, the suit alleged, he was fed “[vague responses, platitudes and empty promises](https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/true-the-vote.pdf) of follow-up” that never occurred. - You’d think he hasn’t been paying attention for the last five years. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7090 "2020-11-28T03:53:03Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > > [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > > > I think the question is moot, isn’t a 5-4 vote needed just to hear the case? > > I think a vote of just 4 justices is sufficient… Correct, just four votes to grant certiorari (“cert”) and accept a case. At this point I would be very surprised if the Supremes do anything other than let all the lower courts’ rulings, mercilessly smacking around Rudy, Sidney & Co., stand. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7091 "2020-11-28T04:12:37Z")
Neil and Harvest Moon. I’ll interrupt this Trump bashing for a story. It is a true story, no exaggeration. Saw Neil circa 1998 at Jones Beach near NYC. It is an outdoor venue, the water right behind it. It was a cloudy night and the moon was covered. But as Neil played Harvest Moon, the clouds drifted away and the full moon became visible above the stage. Such a beautiful thing, the song and the stage and the water behind. It was the most incredible thing I have even seen at a concert. And as the song ended, the clouds slowly came back. Well hell I can’t think of a more perfect metaphor for right now. The fucking dark night of Trump has ended. The clouds have gone away. But will they return? I can only hope they will not, as Neil said, Keep on Rocking in the Free World ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7092 "2020-11-28T04:25:03Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Note that this blistering decision came from a Trump appointee. The thing with Trump-appointed judges is that for the most part they probably weren’t vetted by Trump (or more accurately his team). Rather they were undoubtedly from lists of seemingly reliably conservative Republican judges drawn up by some GOP judicial task force that were then handed to Trump to rubber stamp. Trump doesn’t know from judges. While there may well be some Trumpists in the bunch, I suspect others are just going to be bog standard rock-ribbed conservatives who have no particular need to kiss Trump’s ass now that they are appointed. And I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that a larger than average cohort of those conservative judges are the kind of intellectual conservatives that look dimly on crazed pulled-from-the-rectum lawsuits. I’m not really surprised that some “Trump appointees” aren’t necessarily on his side. It’s likely some never were to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7093 "2020-11-28T04:26:37Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/jFOi4CvLMz0/maxresdefault.jpg "Pieta Brown - "Remember the Sun"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFOi4CvLMz0) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7094 "2020-11-28T04:50:26Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > > [@jsc1953](#): > > > > Note that this blistering decision came from a Trump appointee. > > The thing with Trump-appointed judges is that for the most part they probably weren’t vetted by Trump (or more accurately his team). Rather they were undoubtedly from lists of seemingly reliably conservative Republican judges drawn up by some GOP judicial task force that were then handed to Trump to rubber stamp. Trump doesn’t know from judges… Agreed. FWIW, I personally know one Trump appointee to a U.S. District Court seat who is a Republican, but not particularly conservative, and definitely _not_ a MAGAhead. If a half-baked Trump election challenge came his way I have no doubt he would rule as so many other federal and state judges, regardless of who appointed or elected them, already have. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=353) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=355)