# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 361
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7215 "2020-12-01T18:25:26Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > The problem with asking that of Trump and his cohort is that they’ve already made it very clear what the answer is. And _that’s_ why Trumpism is fundamentally different from McCarthyism. It’s not like the “Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last?” question shamed McCarthy into changing his ways for the better. It changed public opinion, which finally turned against McCarthy, removed his power and broke his hold on the Republican party. I think the biggest difference between McCarthyism and trumpism is how much more divided public opinion is now. There is a large contingent of trumpists who will not change their opinion of trump, no matter what he does or what he says. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7216 "2020-12-01T19:03:47Z")
I’m not sure McCarthy would have been broken had Fox, OANN, and Facebook been around then. The difference between the 1950s and now is that a lot of people aren’t getting their news from reliable sources, they can insulate themselves in whatever reality they wish. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7217 "2020-12-01T19:53:09Z")
OK, if Bill Barr says there’s no fraud, there must be no fraud, right, Don? > **[Disputing Trump, Barr says no widespread election fraud](https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-elections-william-barr-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — Disputing President Donald Trump’s persistent, baseless claims, Attorney General William Barr declared Tuesday the U.S. Justice Department has uncovered no evidence of widespread voter fraud that could change the outcome of the 2020... ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7218 "2020-12-01T19:54:36Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > OK, if Bill Barr says there’s no fraud, there must be no fraud, right, Don? - So… I guess Bill has his next job lined up already? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7219 "2020-12-01T19:54:40Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > OK, if Bill Barr says there’s no fraud, there must be no fraud, right, Don? We can only hope Trump fires him over this. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7220 "2020-12-01T19:55:37Z")
May not have to wait long… > ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7221 "2020-12-01T19:58:01Z")
He fired Krebs over basically saying the same thing. It’s just a pet peeve, but I wish news stories would stop using the phrase “widespread fraud”. It implies (and Barr says basically the same thing) that there may have been 50,000 fraudulent votes cast in Michigan but that’s not enough to change the outcome. There’s virtually _zero_ fraud. Zip, nada. Count the occurrences on your fingers & toes. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7222 "2020-12-01T19:59:24Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > We can only hope Trump fires him over this. Who’ll replace him? Guiliani or Judge Judy? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7223 "2020-12-01T19:59:46Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > There’s virtually _zero_ fraud. IMO, there is absolutely zero intentional fraud. There are irregularities, like mail-in ballots missing a signature or return address. But there’s no fraud, per se. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7224 "2020-12-01T20:02:14Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > OK, if Bill Barr says there’s no fraud, there must be no fraud, right, Don? Given how willing Barr has been, until now, to support Trump, this song comes to mind: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/9X_ViIPA-Gc/maxresdefault.jpg "Meat Loaf - I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That) (Official Music Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X_ViIPA-Gc) ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7225 "2020-12-01T20:02:59Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > > [@jsc1953](#): > > > > There’s virtually _zero_ fraud. > > IMO, there is absolutely zero intentional fraud. There are irregularities, like mail-in ballots missing a signature or return address. But there’s no fraud, per se. There was the guy in Pennsylvania who tried using his late mother’s absentee ballot to vote a second time. For Trump. Wonder if Lt. Gov. John Fetterman has gotten his million dollar reward from Greg Abbott yet? ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7226 "2020-12-01T20:10:11Z")
Missed the edit window. Actually was Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, not Gov. Greg Abbott. > **[Lt. Gov. John Fetterman tweets request for $1 million reward for reporting...](https://www.wtae.com/article/lt-gov-john-fetterman-tweets-request-for-dollar1-million-reward-for-reporting-voter-fraud/34651377)** > > Fetterman tweeted message to Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7227 "2020-12-01T20:52:25Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Who’ll replace him? Guiliani or Judge Judy? [Pigmeat Markham.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigmeat_Markham) > His boisterous, indecorous “heyeah (here) come da judge” [schtick](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schtick), which made a mockery of formal courtroom etiquette, became his signature routine. Markham would sit at an elevated judge’s bench (often in a black graduation cap-and-gown, to look more impressive), and deal with a series of comic miscreants. He would often deliver his “judgments”, as well as express frustration with the accused, by leaning over the bench and smacking the accused with an inflated bladder-balloon. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7228 "2020-12-01T21:01:48Z")
Fox, to absolutely no one’s surprise, has the headline “DOJ **yet to find** widespread voter fraud that could have changed 2020 election.” Gotta keep the marks engaged, dont’cha know. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7229 "2020-12-01T21:08:34Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Fox, to absolutely no one’s surprise, has the headline “DOJ **yet to find** widespread voter fraud that could have changed 2020 election.” Yet Drudge, to his credit, took out “widespread.” > BARR: NO EVIDENCE OF ELECTION FRAUD ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7230 "2020-12-01T21:10:55Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > We can only hope Trump fires him over this. Bill Barr hopes Trump fires him over this. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7231 "2020-12-01T21:37:23Z")
Krebs has stated that he has lawyers who win, and that they are reviewing their options. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7232 "2020-12-01T21:39:21Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > OK, if Bill Barr says there’s no fraud, there must be no fraud, right, Don? Generally, everything that guy says is bullshit, so I’m confused. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7233 "2020-12-01T21:56:17Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Fox, to absolutely no one’s surprise, has the headline “DOJ **yet to find** widespread voter fraud that could have changed 2020 election.” I’m sure it’s the same team that is still looking for WMD in Iraq. Any day now… ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7234 "2020-12-01T22:01:46Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I’m sure it’s the same team that is still looking for WMD in Iraq. _Perfect_ comparison. The point should be made again and again and again, it’s the exact same play. This is going to become my standard answer to people who try to tell me there was widespread voter fraud in 2020: “You’re looking for WMD in Iraq all over again.” How many times are gullible people going to fall for it? (It’s a rhetorical question, as I’m sure you understand!) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=360) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=362)