# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 368
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7355 "2020-12-04T19:36:26Z")
There really is no justification for our current electoral system where we ended up with a relatively close election, decided by thousands of votes in a few states, despite the fact that the winning candidate is currently ahead in the tally by over 7 million votes and counting. The election was both shocking close, and not remotely close. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7356 "2020-12-04T19:50:07Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > Slimy Sean was doing this bullshit last night and calling for a criminal investigation in Georgia. But the FOX Web page isn’t talking about it. But I am sure Lying Laura and Crazy Carlson will do the same Right. It’s become a super-targeted effort focused almost entirely on those that (a) may donate money and (b) have turned off any and all critical thinking. Even the President only released his “massive fraud” speech on Facebook. Rudy is only showing up at fake hearings, not in an actual courtroom. If any part of it started as a legitimate attempt to challenge improper voting it has devolved into a pure con at this point. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7357 "2020-12-04T19:51:47Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Land lines aren’t the real problem. Pollsters adapted to that several years ago. The bigger problem now is that no one answers their phone if they don’t recognize the caller because of the endless spam calls. That requires the FCC to do something; pollsters are basically screwed until then. I guess what I meant is that the caller I.D. feature is standard on cell phones, but it wasn’t on land lines. I doubt if the FCC gives a crap about this. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7358 "2020-12-04T21:01:21Z")
It would probably help if the pollster could have their name pop up on caller id. That might skew the results some, like Republicans more likely to answer Rasmussen, but that could be accounted for in aggregation. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7359 "2020-12-04T21:21:57Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > caller I.D. feature is standard on cell phones, but it wasn’t on land lines. It’s pretty standard on land lines too, by now; though some people using landlines are still using old phones on them that aren’t capable of showing it. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7360 "2020-12-04T22:35:16Z")
MN Supreme court rejects GOP suit to do a recount > **[State Supreme Court rejects GOP challenge to Minnesota election results](https://www.startribune.com/state-supreme-court-rejects-gop-challenge-to-minnesota-election-results/573295821/)** > > It's among dozens of court defeats around the country for attempts to undo Biden win. Basically: 1) some of the complaints should have brought up BEFORE the election (some were, and were rejected. and 2) The one compliant that was post election was against county officials, but none were given the petition. Brian ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7361 "2020-12-04T22:45:24Z")
I’m probably the last person here to figure this out… Donnie knows he doesn’t have an ice cube’s chance in hell of overturning the election. He’s dragging this out for one reason (well for a reason and a half). The main reason is: MONEY. He’s raising boatloads of money from his stupid supporters, which he can either use to kick off his 2024 campaign or (more likely) just keep, ‘cause now he knows that presidentin’ is _no fun_. The half reason is for the attention. He can’t give up being in the headlines every day, and the scorched earth exit is keeping him in the limelight. We should take Rachel Maddow’s advice: > **[Rachel Maddow Urges Americans To Do 1 Thing About Trump As COVID-19 Surges](https://news.yahoo.com/rachel-maddow-donald-trump-coronavirus-warning-084712834.html)** > > The MSNBC host's warning came amid a record daily death toll from the pandemic. > “Ignore the president,” [Rachel Maddow](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/rachel-maddow) implored Americans on her MSNBC show. > > “Ignore whatever is going on with that circus,” she urged during a segment Thursday analyzing how the [coronavirus](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/coronavirus) is again surging across the United States while outgoing President [Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) continues his futile attempts to steal the 2020 election. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7362 "2020-12-04T22:46:43Z")
Doesn’t Maddow realize, not one person that is dumb enough to send Trump money is listening to her anyway? ---
**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7363 "2020-12-04T22:56:42Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > MN Supreme court rejects GOP suit to do a recount The GOP now officially has a worse losing record in court than Hamilton Burger. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7364 "2020-12-04T23:03:00Z")
Trump has now lost three times in Georgia after the latest recount requested by the Trump campaign. Shouldn’t that count for 48 electoral votes? ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7365 "2020-12-05T00:15:23Z")
Remember the “overwhelming evidence” of fraud in Nevada? The judge disagrees: > **[Judge rejects Trump campaign lawsuit seeking to block state’s presidential...](https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/judge-rejects-trump-campaign-lawsuit-seeking-to-block-states-presidential-election-results)** > > Judge James Russell ruled Friday against the Trump campaign’s unprecedented request to either block certification of the state’s presidential election results or award the state’s electoral votes to Trump, saying in a written order that the... Also lost in Arizona [https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/11/Order-2.pdf](https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/11/Order-2.pdf) Brian ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7366 "2020-12-05T00:23:37Z")
All that this means to his imbecile acolytes is that the nefarious Deep State™ is preventing the Orange Menace from being rightfully crowned as Dictator for Life. If it seems a bit much to say that this is what US democracy has become, it is patently obvious that this is what the Orange Menace is rapidly turning it into. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7367 "2020-12-05T00:51:37Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I’m probably the last person here to figure this out… Donnie knows he doesn’t have an ice cube’s chance in hell of overturning the election. He’s dragging this out for one reason (well for a reason and a half). > > The main reason is: MONEY. > > He’s raising boatloads of money from his stupid supporters, which he can either use to kick off his 2024 campaign or (more likely) just keep, ‘cause now he knows that presidentin’ is _no fun_ . Quite a few people have said this, but I don’t buy it. Remember that he started making his claims of fraud 2:30 AM of the 4th. He would have had to come up with the plan in such a short time, and really he isn’t that devious. He’s a narcissist. He is simply incapable of believing that he lost. He really thinks he won. He really thinks that the election was stolen by fraud. He totally believes that he can sue to get it back. Every defeat just reinforces his belief in the size of the conspiracy. And he is going to be in serious legal trouble starting Jan 21st. Only hanging onto the Presidency will protect him. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7368 "2020-12-05T00:56:15Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > He is simply incapable of believing that he lost. It’s much more serious with Trump. He thinks things are true that he believes to be true. He thinks things are morally right if they are good for him. Truth and morality do not exist in any concrete way for him. Privilege has kind of made him this way. Terry Pratchett had Trump down 20 years ago when he wasn’t even writing about him. > [@](#): > > “We’ve always been privileged, you see. Privilege just means ‘private law.’ That’s exactly what it means. He just doesn’t believe the ordinary laws apply to him. He really believes they can’t touch him, and that if they do he can just shout until they go away. That’s the de Worde tradition, and we’re _good_ at it. Shout at people, get your own way, ignore the rules.” ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7369 "2020-12-05T01:08:22Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Doesn’t Maddow realize, not one person that is dumb enough to send Trump money is listening to her anyway? Doesn’t mean she shouldn’t get the word out. Plus I definitely show videos to my friends online, and they’re more likely to look since they know me as a person. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7370 "2020-12-05T01:19:06Z")
Can we have the thread re-named: “Election Day [Week] [Month] 2020 follow-along thread”? 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7371 "2020-12-05T01:21:11Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > He thinks things are true that he believes to be true Especially when he has Rudy telling him about all the evidence he has. If you were as dumb as Trump, you would believe it. It sounds convincing to the brainless. 800k extra votes in Georgia! ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7372 "2020-12-05T01:23:01Z")
Turns out that Trump can give a dignified concession speech after all: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7_YclVuSg) Who would have thought? Parody added tag by What Exit? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7373 "2020-12-05T01:32:27Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > He just doesn’t believe the ordinary laws apply to him. He really believes they can’t touch him And so far his experience has been that they **haven’t touched him**. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7374 "2020-12-05T01:34:20Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Quite a few people have said this, but I don’t buy it. Remember that he started making his claims of fraud 2:30 AM of the 4th. He would have had to come up with the plan in such a short time, and really he isn’t that devious. > > He’s a narcissist. He is simply incapable of believing that he lost. He really thinks he won. He really thinks that the election was stolen by fraud. He totally believes that he can sue to get it back. Every defeat just reinforces his belief in the size of the conspiracy. I think it’s both. He has a grifter’s nature, and seeing all the rubes pulling their hair out over the election presented a clear opportunity for him to fleece the sheep even more. But you’re right that the bedrock that Trump has built his entire personality on is that there are winners and losers, and the worst thing in the world is to be seen as a loser. He can thank Fred for that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=367) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=369)