# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 373
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7455 "2020-12-06T16:15:13Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > …presumably he wants to sell _some_ pillows to Biden voters… I think he wants to hold pillows over the faces of some Biden voters. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7456 "2020-12-06T16:19:00Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Jesus. I’d never heard of “My Pillow” before this guy started piping up about the election, but presumably he wants to sell _some_ pillows to Biden voters, right? I’ve got a plan, see? It’s brilliant! I’ll polarize my customer base, then receive business from the people who support that side! _Oh, and you chose the side with fewer voters! Brilliant!_ ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7457 "2020-12-06T16:42:26Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > They can’t change the law for _this_ election. I wonder how many Republican legislatures will be changing the way electors are chosen before the next one? My guess would be all of them. How would this work, tho? it’s not like they can limit this type of hijinx to just Republican-controlled areas, it would apply to Democratic-controlled areas as well, and could work against them the next time a Republican wins. I agree with @flurb they will simply go to their Voter Suppression playbook to get the desired election results. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7458 "2020-12-06T17:02:18Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > …Practically, what that would mean is that when the joint session of Congress convenes in January to count the electoral votes, they would have two slates of electors from Georgia… That’s what happened with several states in the 1876 election, when Congress appointed an Electoral Commission to hash things out. Obviously a very different situation from today. > **[Electoral Commission (United States)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_Commission_(United_States))** > > The Electoral Commission, sometimes referred to as the Hayes-Tilden or Tilden-Hayes Electoral Commission, was a temporary body created by the United States Congress on January 29, 1877, to resolve the disputed United States presidential election of 1876. Democrat Samuel J. Tilden and Republican Rutherford B. Hayes were the main contenders in the election. Tilden won 184 undisputed electoral votes, one vote shy of the 185 needed to win, to Hayes' 165, with 20 electoral votes from four states (Flor... ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7459 "2020-12-06T17:46:06Z")
My MAGA friend on Facebook just posted a quote supposedly from Trump, that says “We will never ever surrender!..We are **one movement, one people, one family and one glorious nation** under GOD!” That sounded so much like Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer that I thought it had to be fake. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7460 "2020-12-06T17:51:18Z")
> We are one people, with one will, one resolve, one cause. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/zIE-5hg7FoA/hqdefault.jpg "Apple 1984 Ad Commercial - Original Recording from The Day It First Aired") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIE-5hg7FoA&t=9) ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7461 "2020-12-06T17:53:05Z")
It’s old: > **[The Wall Street Journal - Breaking News, Business, Financial & Economic...](https://www.wsj.com/)** > > Breaking news and analysis from the U.S. and around the world at WSJ.com. Politics, Economics, Markets, Life & Arts, and in-depth reporting. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7462 "2020-12-06T18:18:24Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > That sounded so much like Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer that I thought it had to be fake. The fact that Trump fired the director of cyber-security for having the temerity to disagree with the Trump “facts”, and is calling for the names of the Senators who say he won the election, is just one more example of facsism at work. You must always agree with Der Fuehrer, particularly when we have always been at war with Eastasia, and those who do not provide whole-hearted support must be named and punished for not clapping enough. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7463 "2020-12-06T18:38:22Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > You think all of the state legislatures that are majority Republican are going to change the law so that in 2024 their constituents won’t get to vote for President? No, they’ll change the laws so that they can ignore all those “fake” ballots (wink wink), and ignore those pesky voters who voted for the “wrong” party. And then appoint electors for the “right” party. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7464 "2020-12-06T19:44:00Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > No, they’ll change the laws so that they can ignore all those “fake” ballots (wink wink), and ignore those pesky voters who voted for the “wrong” party. And then appoint electors for the “right” party I expect that many of them will try various selective voter suppression techniques (as they’re already doing). But laws that say straight out, or even that carefully say in effect, that the legislature can decide which votes are valid based on who they were cast for, I don’t think would wash. ---
**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7465 "2020-12-06T20:24:13Z")
Bad news: Pennsylvania has an astonishing 203 state representatives, of which 113 are Republicans. 64 of these Republicans (so more than half of the Republicans) support overturning the slate of Democratic electors and essentially proclaiming that Donald Trump won their state. That is not half of the representatives in total, so no danger, but I’m worried that more than half of Pennsylvania’s elected Republicans would support such an anti-democratic stance. Funnier news: > **[Star Giuliani Witness Mellissa Carone Was Recently On Probation Because of...](https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/star-giuliani-witness-mellissa-carone-was-recently-on-probation-because-of-raunchy-recording/)** > > The original charges were first-degree obscenity and using a computer to commit a crime. The obscenity count was reduced; the other was dismissed. She was such a well of credibility and computer skill. (Being sarcastic here.) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7466 "2020-12-06T20:32:17Z")
It’s been about a week since prominent Republicans started calling for martial law and so far as I am aware, no other well known Republicans have expressed any opposition to the idea. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7467 "2020-12-06T20:45:39Z")
Wonder if everybody he’s been in contact with in the past week will go into quarantine? > **[Rudy Giuliani Tests Positive For Coronavirus, Trump Says](https://www.npr.org/2020/12/06/943683988/rudy-giuliani-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-trump-says)** > > President Trump said on Twitter that his personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, had tested positive for the coronavirus. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7468 "2020-12-06T20:55:13Z")
Proving yet again that insanity is not a valid defense. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7469 "2020-12-06T20:55:36Z")
I read the tweet. Trump didn’t say Guiliani tested positive “for the coronavirus”. That’s a paraphrase right there. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7470 "2020-12-06T20:57:02Z")
They don’t use that phrase in their own lead, but they do quote Trump’s tweet in the article. ---
**Author:** ![Steven\_G](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steven_g/32/5080_2.png) [@Steven\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steven_G)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7471 "2020-12-06T21:44:18Z")
My conspiracy theory: Given that states like Georgia are run by Republicans, could Trump be right that the election was rigged? And that the “They…” are the GOP? “They” want Trump out, but want his support. This would explain the split-ticket voting and some other behaviour of the GOP. And it’s all run by the Lincoln Project. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7472 "2020-12-06T22:15:10Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > They can’t change the law for _this_ election. I wonder how many Republican legislatures will be changing the way electors are chosen before the next one? My guess would be all of them. > [@flurb](#): > > No state is going to change their laws so that the presidential electors are appointed by some process other than direct election. In the current debacle, even the most in-the-bag Trumpists like Kemp have been unwilling to go that route. As elected politicians, these state officials would be very wary of setting such a high-profile precedent that voting is meaningless. Sorry, it was late and I wasn’t clear what I meant. They won’t change their laws to having the legislature be the _only_ way to choose electors. They will just make that an option in case of “disputed” elections, with a lot of caveats and wiggle room about what “disputed” means. I agree that doing so would be a terrible idea but we are talking about Republicans. I’m not so sure Kemp wouldn’t have been relieved having that as a _legal_ out. > [@Kimera757](#): > > Pennsylvania has an astonishing 203 state representatives, of which 113 are Republicans. 64 of these Republicans (so more than half of the Republicans) support overturning the slate of Democratic electors and essentially proclaiming that Donald Trump won their state. That is not half of the representatives in total, so no danger, but I’m worried that more than half of Pennsylvania’s elected Republicans would support such an anti-democratic stance. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7473 "2020-12-06T22:19:33Z")
> [@Steven\_G](#): > > Given that states like Georgia are run by Republicans, could Trump be right that the election was rigged? And that the “They…” are the GOP? “They” want Trump out, but want his support. This would explain the split-ticket voting and some other behaviour of the GOP. And it’s all run by the Lincoln Project. No. Voting in the United States is a radically decentralized endeavor. Not just among 50 states, but among 3,143 counties, parishes and other subdivisions that largely conduct their own vote count. This is why fraud on the scale Trump is alleging is just not feasible – it would require such a massive conspiracy among hundreds or thousands of election officials that it’s impossible that you could pull it off without generating tons of evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7474 "2020-12-06T22:43:13Z")
What I don’t understand is how Georgians are letting a damn Yankee like Trump come down to their state and call them a bunch of cheaters. I thought the South had some pride. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=372) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=374)