# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 377
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7535 "2020-12-08T14:49:26Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > How could he be getting rejected so thoroughly _unless_ there’s a conspiracy against him? Shouldn’t he be getting some wins? It’s like how sports fans become convinced that some top teams “gets all the calls” due to a conspiracy of the referees, even if the truth is that top teams are just more skilled at not committing infractions. I can absolutely see how this “reasoning” would click with the MAGAbots. There has to be **something dirty** going on if someone keeps getting nothing but bad calls, amirite? 🕵🏽‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7536 "2020-12-08T14:57:33Z")
Yup…To them, it just shows how deep and pervasive the corruption is. It is a completely non-falsifiable belief system: If they win the cases, it shows that they’re right and if they lose the cases, it shows that they’re right. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7537 "2020-12-08T15:00:34Z")
- gutting the departments and workers - essentially sabotaging the country as a way to ‘hurt’ his enemies - you know, the american people. His supporters will, of course, not see this. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7538 "2020-12-08T15:07:38Z")
> [@Folly](#): > > Top…Men… Rudy is currently prepping for the press conference at Moscow where the Top Division soccer league plays. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7539 "2020-12-08T16:16:56Z")
And in a new bit of lunacy, Texas is suing the Biden-voting states. > **[In new lawsuit, Texas contests election results in Georgia, Wisconsin,...](https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/08/texas-ken-paxton-election-georgia/)** > > Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to block the battleground states from casting "unlawful and constitutionally tainted votes" in the Electoral College. There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud, experts say. > **[SCOTUSFiling.pdf](https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/admin/2020/Press/SCOTUSFiling.pdf)** > > 1337.68 KB ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7540 "2020-12-08T16:27:45Z")
It should be noted that Paxton is a truly loathsome politician currently embroiled in a scandal over allegations of bribery and abuse of office to help a campaign donor that led to his entire senior staff resigning. He’s also been under an indictment for securities fraud that he’s managed to keep tied up in court for years – and was reelected in 2018 in spite of it. This is straight out of his playbook to keep the feeding red meat to the base so that they’ll forget about little things like abuse of office. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7541 "2020-12-08T17:27:55Z")
as a ‘new’ case - I see nothing in that PDF (in a very, very, quick scan) that has not already been tossed out in every other case already decided at the state level. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7542 "2020-12-08T17:29:46Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > This is straight out of his playbook to keep the feeding red meat to the base so that they’ll forget about little things like abuse of office. Even so, how does the Texas Attorney General have any standing in the way other states run their elections? How about other SAs taking Texas to court about their one drop-off box per county policy? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7543 "2020-12-08T17:41:32Z")
> [@simster](#): > > as a ‘new’ case - I see nothing in that PDF (in a very, very, quick scan) that has not already been tossed out in every other case already decided at the state level. Agreed, and in addition, I can’t see the logic of Texas suing for something that allegedly happened in Georgia. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7544 "2020-12-08T17:44:26Z")
> [@simster](#): > > as a ‘new’ case - I see nothing in that PDF (in a very, very, quick scan) that has not already been tossed out in every other case already decided at the state level. Oh yeah, what about this??? > The probability of former Vice President > Biden winning the popular vote in the four Defendant > States—Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and > Wisconsin—independently given President Trump’s > early lead in those States as of 3 a.m. on November 4, > 2020, is less than one in a quadrillion, or 1 in > 1,000,000,000,000,000. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7545 "2020-12-08T17:48:09Z")
Never tell me the odds. (and entirely irrelevant given the rules regaurding counting the mail in ballots in the given states) ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7546 "2020-12-08T17:50:11Z")
There’s lies, damn lies, and statistics. And, politicians who failed math. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7547 "2020-12-08T17:51:58Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Even so, how does the Texas Attorney General have any standing in the way other states run their elections? He doesn’t, and it doesn’t matter. What’s important to the base is that Republican officeholders are fighting for Trump. It doesn’t matter if the chance of success is less than zero, if the arguments are farcical on their face, or if they border on (or tip over into) extralegal remedies. After Biden is sworn in on January 20, the question every Republican politician will have to answer in their next primary election is, “What did you do to stop it?” And they better have a better answer than, “we let the legal process run its course.” Otherwise, they’re going to get challenged in the primary and probably thrown out. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7548 "2020-12-08T17:52:14Z")
With all the lawsuits filed, we seemed to have missed this one - from one Jeffrey Cutler, who is obviously auditioning for a role as Trump’s new personal attorney. Here is some background I found on Mr. Cutler. It’s sort of jaw-dropping. > **[When a new tax collector elected himself in a Pa. town, chaos ensued](https://www.inquirer.com/business/tax-collector-jeffrey-cutler-east-lampeter-pa-lancaster-county-20181211.html)** > > Jeffrey Cutler got elected tax collector in a Lancaster County town with one write-in vote. Some officials say his poor performance shows how obsolete the position has become. And here’s his “lawsuit”. > **[“Motion to Declare Trump Victorious” Filed in Pennsylvania – Lowering the Bar](https://www.loweringthebar.net/2020/11/motion-to-declare-trump-victorious-filed-in-pennsylvania.html)** While the document is a **MOTION TO DECLARE DONALD J TRUMP INC VICTORIOUS FOR INJUNCTIVE RELIEF BECAUSE OF CRIMES** , the 27 page document posted online did not mention Trump . It did mention ObamaCare several times, Bill Cosby, and he seems particularly obsessed with the murder of federal employee Jonathan Luna. While the gish-gallop is difficult to parse, there are a lot of mail fraud and judicial misconduct allegations tossed about, because apparently this litigant send lots of documents to the courts, many of which disappear. Here’s a random excerpt from the document. KRISTEN WELKER’S HUSBAND IS A MARKETING EXECUTIVE FOR MERCK. Based on Tigers in the Bronx Zoo being diagnosed with COVID-19, there is **ZERO** evidence that the tigers ever failed to practice social distancing, because that person would be called **LUNCH**. HIV has NO VACCINE. This **EFFECTIVELY INVALIDATES ALL THE MODELS** being used to justify the restrictions. Mr Cutler based on standard engineering concepts the death of Philadelphi Police Lieutenant James Walker, Seth Rich, Bre Payton, Edgar Rosenberg, Lorna Breen, Ellen Greenberg may be MURDERS of the **KLU KLUX KLAN** and 1-2% of all law enforcement in the United Stew may be members or share their views. Also some elected officials and person in the military all branches. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7549 "2020-12-08T17:56:04Z")
How long will it take Alito to decide about taking up (or not) the PA case today? I thought a hearing was scheduled for 9 a.m. today but haven’t been able to find any more about it. It’s most likely to be rejected but I just want to _know_ that it has been. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7550 "2020-12-08T18:02:36Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Oh yeah, what about this??? > > > The probability of former Vice President > > Biden winning the popular vote in the four Defendant > > States—Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and > > Wisconsin—independently given President Trump’s > > early lead in those States as of 3 a.m. on November 4, > > 2020, is less than one in a quadrillion, or 1 in > > 1,000,000,000,000,000. Not new. It’s been the central claim of Trump since the results started coming in. The exact number they quote may be new, I’ve never heard it before. But essentially it’s the same old claim. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7551 "2020-12-08T18:05:19Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Not new. It’s been the central claim of Trump since the results started coming in. The exact number they quote may be new, I’ve never heard it before. But essentially it’s the same old claim . My opinion may not have been clear from my post, but this is a preposterous argument. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7552 "2020-12-08T18:07:20Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > this is a preposterous argument. My argument or Trump’s, or the lawyer filing this suit? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7553 "2020-12-08T18:09:25Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > My argument or Trump’s, or the lawyer filing this suit? Gee, I’m bad at this. Texas’ argument. There isn’t much of a chance of an airliner crashing, but when one does we don’t pretend it didn’t happen because it wasn’t likely. (and their numbers are ridiculous too) ---
**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7554 "2020-12-08T18:28:24Z")
> [@Procrustus (quoting the bizarre filing)](#): > > > is less than one in a quadrillion, or 1 in > > 1,000,000,000,000,000. I like how they spell out that “a quadrillion” is “1,000,000,000,000,000” – as one does to dramatically reveal a number so it looks really big. This is a staple of creationist apologia. Claiming evolution can’t happen because events X, Y, Z have to happen, assigning a low probability to all of those things, and then multiplying those low probabilities to get a cosmically low probability for all of them together. With tonnes of dubious mathematical assumptions along the way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=376) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=378)