# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7755 "2020-12-12T20:02:28Z")

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Federal judge dismisses Wisconsin case (Trump v WEC) (not to be confused with teh state case which was heard today, but AFAIK no ruling yet)  
[https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/12/2020-12-12-Decision-And-Order-dckt-134\_0.pdf](https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/12/2020-12-12-Decision-And-Order-dckt-134_0.pdf)

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> Plaintiff’s Electors Clause claims fail as a matter of law and fact.  
> …  
> This is an extraordinary case. A sitting president who did not prevail in his bid for  
> reelection has asked for federal court help in setting aside the popular vote based on disputed issues  
> of election administration, issues he plainly could have raised before the vote occurred. This  
> Court has allowed plaintiff the chance to make his case and he has lost on the merits. In his reply  
> brief, plaintiff “asks that the Rule of Law be followed.” (Pl. Br., ECF No. 109.) It has been.

Brian

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7756 "2020-12-12T21:20:03Z")

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Sweet!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7757 "2020-12-12T22:28:55Z")

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That’s tellin’ 'em… for all the good it will do.

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7758 "2020-12-12T22:33:11Z")

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Yet another slam from a Trump-appointed Federal judge.

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**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7759 "2020-12-13T03:17:45Z")

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Just recognize the obvious: trump is a whiny baby. Nobody cares that he is upset that he doesn’t get to be President for life. In a year, nobody will care that he will be consigned to the dustbin of history,m gawked at in disbelief life the crazy Roman emperors like Caracalla and Caligula.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7760 "2020-12-13T06:48:12Z")

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After the failure of the Texas case, some MAGA supporters got together for a protest rally. Michael Flynn was there. His sister sang, but didn’t know the words to God Bless America. Alex Jones was also there, along with the Proud Boys and the MyPillow guy. The Trump supporters started chanting “Destroy the GOP” like serpents eating their own tail. Bizarre stuff.

> **[MAGA Protesters Chant 'Destroy the GOP' at Pro-Trump Rally](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/protesters-chant-destroy-the-gop-at-pro-trump-rally-1102967/)**
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> A motley crew of pro-Trump figures was in attendance, including conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and Trump’s disgraced former national security advisor Michael Flynn

I keep reading that MAGA supporters have taken over the GOP. Hard to imagine.

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7761 "2020-12-13T09:02:09Z")

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They’ll have forgotten completely about that rally by next week and be loyally back in line to take those Georgia seats and demand every Biden move is blocked.

Also: I can’t believe it’s been a month. It’s been a looooooong month.

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**Author:** ![teelabrown](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teelabrown/32/8412_2.png) [@teelabrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teelabrown)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7762 "2020-12-13T16:48:53Z")

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I’m sure this is a fact well-known to most you, but I’m in the dark so I’m asking.

Can a party refuse to have a person nominated under their flag? I.e., say the weirdo but technically sane cat lady next door decided to run for the Republican candidate for president, and due to some weird media nonsensity, she astoundingly starts to become a viable candidate. The Republican party really really doesn’t want her to end up being the Republican candidate. Can they legally do anything? Can they formally decline to accept her as their candidate?

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7763 "2020-12-13T16:50:55Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> After the failure of the Texas case, some MAGA supporters got together for a protest rally. Michael Flynn was there. His sister sang, but didn’t know the words to God Bless America. Alex Jones was also there, along with the Proud Boys and the MyPillow guy. The Trump supporters started chanting “Destroy the GOP” like serpents eating their own tail. Bizarre stuff.

> [@RS](#):
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> He [Flynn] continued, “The courts aren’t going to decide who the next president of the United States is going to be. We the people decide.”

The irony, it burns.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7764 "2020-12-13T16:55:10Z")

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> [@teelabrown](#):
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> Can a party refuse to have a person nominated under their flag?

I’m not sure how it would be treated for a Presidential candidate, but in 1986, followers of whackjob Lyndon LaRouche managed to win the Democratic primaries in Illinois for two major statewide offices. As I understand it, the Illinois Democratic party had no way to purge the LaRouche candidates off of the ballot, so they had to resort to running their own candidates on a third-party ticket, and conducting an informational campaign to alert voters as to who the false-flag Democrats were. (Neither of the LaRouche supporters won in the general election, IIRC.)

> **[Lyndon LaRouche | 1986: Electoral success in Illinois; press conference allegations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche#1986:_Electoral_success_in_Illinois;_press_conference_allegations)**
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> In March 1986, Mark Fairchild and Janice Hart – LaRouche National Democratic Policy Committee candidates – won the Democratic primary for statewide offices in Illinois, gaining national attention for LaRouche. The Democratic gubernatorial candidate, Adlai Stevenson III, withdrew his nomination rather than run on the same slate as LaRouche members, and told reporters the party was "exploring every legal remedy to purge these bizarre and dangerous extremists from the Democratic ticket." A spok A mo...

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7765 "2020-12-13T17:05:01Z")

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I asked this same question back in the spring. The answer seemed to be that the party could not keep a candidate off a state-run primary, but if that candidate won the primary, the party was not obliged to recognise delegates for that candidate at the convention (speaking of presidential primaries).

> [@Could the Democratic Party have kept Bernie off the primaries?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-democratic-party-have-kept-bernie-off-the-primaries/851867):
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> This point has come up in various permutations over the past few months, and as a furriner, I’m confused. Over in the “Bernie Withdraws” thread, Left Hand of Dorkness says this: But I thought, from previous threads on primaries, that access to the ballot for primary elections is determined by state laws? And if you as a candidate meet the state’s requirements to enter a primary, the party can’t keep you from entering? And, since those state laws are set by the 50 states, there are 50 differ…

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7766 "2020-12-13T19:05:07Z")

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> **[Georgia high court rejects latest Trump election appeal](https://wgntv.com/news/politics/georgia-high-court-rejects-latest-trump-election-appeal/)**
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> ATLANTA (AP) — President Donald Trump has lost his latest legal challenge seeking to overturn Georgia’s election results, with the state Supreme Court’s rejection late Saturday of a cas…

Trump SUCKS at courting the courts.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7767 "2020-12-13T19:18:15Z")

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> [@teelabrown](#):
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> Can a party refuse to have a person nominated under their flag?

Parties set their own rules for who gets the nomination. I don’t think they can refuse a person who gets nominated following those rules. They could rewrite the rules (though not, I think, in the middle of the process; they could rewrite them for future elections), but that risks their members throwing a fit if the rules seem to give the party establishment too much control.

There used to be a lot more safeguards against a person being nominated who the establishment couldn’t stand, but most of them have been knocked down over the years, because too many of the party members thought they were undemocratic. Which they were.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7768 "2020-12-13T19:33:47Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > ATLANTA (AP) — President Donald Trump has lost his latest legal challenge seeking to overturn Georgia’s election results, with the state Supreme Court’s rejection late Saturday of a cas…
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> Trump SUCKS at courting the courts.

He’s really not here for the hunting, is he?

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7769 "2020-12-13T21:41:51Z")

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He and his supporters were, as predicted, tired of winning. So they decided to lose for a change. It’s been very relaxing. They plan to go back to winning in two weeks.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7770 "2020-12-13T23:23:53Z")

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Last I heard -

He had to lose the election to prove there was fraud in the election  
He had to lose in the courts to prove the courts were deep state

Its all part of the plan folks - just relax - he’s got this.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7771 "2020-12-13T23:37:42Z")

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He (by he I mean Trump and his various Republican satraps) has got to be running out of lawsuits, doesn’t he? Only one I know that is still not been dismissed is in the Wisconsin Supreme Court and is supposed to be ruled on by Monday, and Sidney Powell apparently has some type of appeal going to the Supremes, but they have to be just about out of options, don’t they?

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7772 "2020-12-14T00:03:09Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Its all part of the plan folks - just relax - he’s got this.

I saw someone the other day say that Trump is exposing the fraudulent nature of our elections and the court systems and this might be his greatest achievement.

Basil Fawlty: Is this a piece of your brain?

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7773 "2020-12-14T00:35:18Z")

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A copy from a Trump supporter…

It’s not over!

1. The SUPREME COURT told Texas to refile & how. Lets see if they do.
2. Lyn Wood’s case has been docketed by the Supreme Court.
3. Sidney Powell just released her new data on the people & foreign country’s involved, in rigging the election… so that invokes the 2018 EO executive order wherein Trump now has a right to implement his order.
4. Sidney Powell still has her lawsuit in the federal district court waiting for decision.
5. There are over a hundred other lawsuits pending that may have standing.
6. there are state legislative options but after listening to them in their legislative & public hearings, im not convinced they are going to protect us.

From the last point all of this is apparently to “protect us”.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7774 "2020-12-14T00:39:46Z")

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#2 - Lyn Wood’s case: [Search - Supreme Court of the United States](https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/20-799.html)

I assume?

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