# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![teelabrown](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teelabrown/32/8412_2.png) [@teelabrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teelabrown)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7876 "2020-12-14T22:31:49Z")

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California has cast. 302-232 Biden.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7877 "2020-12-14T22:32:10Z")

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Related to your question - at what point are electors chosen? Is it before the nominee is known?

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7878 "2020-12-14T22:39:23Z")

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As I understand it, elector slates are chosen long before the election. You’re actually voting for the electors of your choice.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7879 "2020-12-14T22:46:10Z")

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Breaking News. William Barr resigns as Attorney General. Tweets Trump, to spend the holidays with his family.

Gee, most people just take a week off.

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7880 "2020-12-14T22:46:42Z")

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No, there have been many elections without any faithless electors. The last one before 2016 was in 2004, and it seems to have been someone who was simply confused (an elector pledged to Kerry cast their ballot for John Edwards, his VP candidate, instead).

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**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7881 "2020-12-14T22:51:31Z")

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Thanks. I guess I was kind of hoping that there would be one elector in some red state who, after observing Trump’s behavior over the past month, would have cast a vote for Mike Pence, or the Ghost of Ronald Reagan, or something. That would have been kind of funny, but probably not worth it if it stirred up another crapstorm of objections from the GOP.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7882 "2020-12-14T22:53:08Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> Breaking News. William Barr resigns as Attorney General.

Is this for real or a joke? I suppose it ought to be obvious, but these are strange times we live in. (I’m guessing joke as I don’t see any news reports yet, but this wouldn’t be the first time the SDMB proved the fastest source of info.)

ETA: Real! You beat my NYT news feed by a few minutes. Wow.

…and cite:

> **[William Barr Is Out as Attorney General (Published 2020)](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/14/us/politics/william-barr-attorney-general.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20201214&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline&regi_id=61847031&segment_id=46934&user_id=da97619acbcde65be9de44cc22c0e059)**
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> Mr. Barr was one of the most powerful members of President Trump’s cabinet and faced widespread criticism over his willingness to advance Mr. Trump’s political agenda.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7883 "2020-12-14T22:57:00Z")

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That leaves Barr with more time for his first love, the bagpipes.

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**Author:** ![teelabrown](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teelabrown/32/8412_2.png) [@teelabrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teelabrown)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7884 "2020-12-14T22:58:47Z")

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And Michigan Republican representative Paul Mitchell has [switched to being an independent](https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/14/politics/read-paul-mitchell-republican-party-letter/index.html).

Excerpt from his letter:

“If Republican leaders collectively sit back and tolerate unfounded conspiracy theories and “stop the steal” rallies without speaking out for our electoral process, which the Department of Homeland Security said was “the most secure in American history,” our nation will be damaged. I have spoken out clearly and forcefully in opposition to these messages. However, with the leadership of the Republican Party and our Republican Conference in the House actively participating in at least some of those efforts, I fear long-term harm to our democracy.”

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7885 "2020-12-14T23:00:35Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> And you know how the WaPo called up the offices of all 249 GOP Congresspersons a week or so ago to ask if they acknowledged that Biden won?
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> Only 26 of them did. But the scary part is that the numbers probably wouldn’t change much if they did the same thing tomorrow, even though the EC has voted and everything.

If you ask GOP house members in 2022 who won the 2020 election, my bet is that a majority would answer “Trump”. They will never acknowledge Biden as president, because they are seditious traitors, who would rather destroy their own country rather than admit error.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7886 "2020-12-14T23:02:45Z")

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> [@teelabrown](#):
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> And Michigan Republican representative Paul Mitchell has [switched to being an independent](https:

Well good for him. (And that’s a doozy of a letter.)

– hey, R Senators: you really ought to read that letter.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7887 "2020-12-14T23:02:48Z")

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“Spend more time with his family”

Ha ha ha ha ha!

Under the bus you go, sparky.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7888 "2020-12-14T23:03:27Z")

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> [@Meltdown](#):
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> Am I reading this correctly that there have been no faithless electors (so far)?

Assuming Hawaii’s are faithful, this means that Biden will get two more electoral votes than Trump’s “landslide.” Trump also won 306 electors but two were faithless.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7889 "2020-12-14T23:11:39Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Assuming Hawaii’s are faithful, this means that Biden will get two more electoral votes than Trump’s “landslide.”

All signs seem to indicate this will be a fully faithful election and Biden will get all 306. Ouch, that must sting.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7890 "2020-12-14T23:25:37Z")

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I thought that was one helluva good letter.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7891 "2020-12-14T23:50:52Z")

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If he runs in the 2022 election with an (I) after his name, then I’ll be impressed. For now, he’s not really risking anything.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7892 "2020-12-14T23:54:41Z")

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No, he’s apparently retiring. Sorta like Jeff Flake - outrage at Trump only peaks when you’re about to retire.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7893 "2020-12-14T23:59:04Z")

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> **[Horrible Student Rejected by College](https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/horrible-student-rejected-by-college)**
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> The decision was unsurprising, given the student’s poor performance in such important subjects as science, math, history, and spelling.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7894 "2020-12-15T00:08:26Z")

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It’s official folks:

> **[Biden hits 270 votes, clinches Electoral College victory](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/530139-biden-hits-270-electoral-college-votes/)**
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> President-elect Joe Biden has crossed the threshold of 270 votes and officially clinched an Electoral College victory.With electors in California handing the former vice president their 55 votes, B…

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/7895 "2020-12-15T01:05:37Z")

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GA case (Borland v Raffensperger) was appealed the GA Supreme Court. It was denied very shortly later.

[https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/11/2020.12.14-Boland-denial-GASC.pdf](https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/11/2020.12.14-Boland-denial-GASC.pdf)

Brian

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