# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 402
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8038 "2020-12-18T22:15:33Z")
At first blush it looks really horrible - like either they forgot to bring another sheet for him to read, or he is illiterate and couldn’t read the team names. In retrospect, perhaps he just didn’t know enough about the town names to be able to pronounce them. These days, he would have tried to bluff his way through it and announce things like Nor witch. ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8039 "2020-12-18T22:21:36Z")
They always just read the numbers out - even today. The guy in the middle has the job of interpreting what the numbers are. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8040 "2020-12-18T22:38:05Z")
I’m not seeing anything embarrassing about Trump’s performance there. I think that the person drawing the numbers is never told which number means which team. That prevents anyone from _deliberately_ selecting a particular team. I don’t follow sport. Greavsie laughed and said “You don’t know what you’ve done there.” Neither do I. What HAS he done? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8041 "2020-12-18T23:29:19Z")
> [@Uniqueorn](#): > > The few I know seem to have several things in common: > > - Pro-Brexit > - quite religious (Christian franchise) > - anti-vaxxers > - Pro-Trumpers Replace “pro-Brexit” with “Nationalism” = all the Americans who voted for him. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8042 "2020-12-18T23:42:25Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > I don’t understand why he took the anti-mask stance that he did I suspect that he just didn’t want to wear a mask. With Trump, I don’t think there had to be anything more to it. – to the extent that there was anything more to it, I think it was probably ‘they’re saying something bad is happening during my administration. I don’t want that to be true, so I’m going to deny that any such thing is happening.’ ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8043 "2020-12-18T23:45:30Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > I suspect that he just didn’t want to wear a mask.- We’ve said before that he just doesn’t take direction. He doesn’t do what anyone else wants him to do or tells him to do. If you want him to do something, forbid it, and then he probably will. The CDC should have said from the beginning, “No one is allowed to wear a mask. It is against the law!” and then Donnie would have started wearing one 24/7. Okay, not really. He is contrary for the sake of being contrary. No one can tell him anything. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8044 "2020-12-18T23:47:13Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > Trump was able to take advantage of some issues that divided the country that he used to maximize his power. If the same issues prevail or get worse, then the same thing could happen again. I have less doubt about that than I do that he will continue to dominate the media and the collective consciousness of the country as he has for the last 4 years. I think his star will fade for a while at least. He will be a study in the human condition and in poly-sci courses so that maybe we can eventually figure out exactly how this happened, but I agree he captured lightning in a bottle and I’m not 100% sure how they will be able to do that again. My buddy and I debate this endlessly–he thinks Tramp’s the “kingmaker” now and whoever he annoints, his MAGA cult will eat with a spoon. I think we just witnessed some kind of perfect storm of hate and ignorance, coupled with political fatigue+ a historically unlikable DEM candidate… It’ll be interesting to see how much clout he keeps carrying after Jan 20th…I predicted he’d be dropped like a hot rock when he’s not politically useful, but that remains to be seen. TBH I didn’t expect him to maintain this strong of a stranglehold on the party this long after the election. ---
**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8045 "2020-12-19T00:01:20Z")
> I don’t follow sport. Greavsie laughed and said “You don’t know what you’ve done there.” Neither do I. What HAS he done? Likely referring to [this.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeds_United_F.C.%E2%80%93Manchester_United_F.C._rivalry) ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8046 "2020-12-19T00:15:09Z")
> [@Dr.Colossus](#): > > > [@Uniqueorn](#): > > > > The few I know seem to have several things in common: > > > > > - Pro-Brexit > > > - quite religious (Christian franchise) > > > - anti-vaxxers > > > - Pro-Trumpers > > Replace “pro-Brexit” with “Nationalism” = all the Americans who voted for him. Weird. This is showing up as a reply to me. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8047 "2020-12-19T00:26:34Z")
> [@Dr.Colossus](#): > > > [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > > > Trump was able to take advantage of some issues that divided the country that he used to maximize his power. If the same issues prevail or get worse, then the same thing could happen again. I have less doubt about that than I do that he will continue to dominate the media and the collective consciousness of the country as he has for the last 4 years. I think his star will fade for a while at least. > > He will be a study in the human condition and in poly-sci courses so that maybe we can eventually figure out exactly how this happened, but I agree he captured lightning in a bottle and I’m not 100% sure how they will be able to do that again. I believe this. And Trump will consider this a testament to his genius. But what is really going to be analyzed by future historians is how it came to be that so many voters were so unbelievably fucking stupid – so childishly gullible, so easily conned – that they elected a totally unqualified self-serving and dangerously moronic demagogue. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8048 "2020-12-19T00:35:02Z")
"Politicians know better than scientists. " That explains many GOP stances, sure as pollution, global warming and yes, this Pandemic. But if course, in the long term science always wins. Some Republicans know this, but they figure they will just blame it on the Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8049 "2020-12-19T01:51:28Z")
> [@eschrodinger](#): > > Weird. This is showing up as a reply to me. I believe that was an error on my part: I had started a reply about how I have no idea where I picked up the term “offling” but I discarded the post, however my next reply had to be edited to remove that portion (I’m not use to this auto-draft save format). My bad. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8050 "2020-12-19T01:56:00Z")
No worries. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8051 "2020-12-19T02:28:44Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/DygRa5JlYhs/maxresdefault.jpg "RUDOLPH THE LEAKY LAWYER - A Randy Rainbow Song Parody") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DygRa5JlYhs) ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8052 "2020-12-19T02:31:51Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/B7kCqrlwDtU/maxresdefault.jpg "Best Trump Parody Song - So Long, Farewell Donald Trump - 20 January 2021 Version") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7kCqrlwDtU) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8053 "2020-12-19T02:42:58Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > > [@asahi](#): > > > > It’s not that people blame Trump for COVID happening or even that COVID was bad; > > I do. Deaths would have been much lower under a sane scientific policy. > > One good thing, with all these court challenges, trump has now lost more often than Harold Stassen. And Biden has won more times than FDR. ---
**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8054 "2020-12-19T04:32:12Z")
trump and his supporters are a shame. They are a stain on human decency and on the concept of good. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8055 "2020-12-19T12:47:37Z")
Agreed. Trump loves their money., and they love emptying their dumb pockets… “The battle is lost. The supreme court and electoral college have spoken. Even the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, so adept at remaking the rules for political advantage, has acknowledged that Donald Trump will not be the next president. But the money flowing into Trump’s political coffers suggests that defeat will not drive the soon-to-be-former president into the political shadows. Trump has been on a fundraising drive since the election, rapidly bringing in an astonishing $200m or more on the back of his false claims that the vote was rigged.” Trump’s marks will make an actual billionaire out of him yet! > **[Trump raised $200m from false election claims. What happens to the money now?](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/19/trump-raised-200m-from-false-election-claims-what-happens-to-the-money-now)** > > The president could use the funds to ensure he and his allies remain a powerful force in US politics ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8056 "2020-12-19T18:04:45Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > Who are these European Trumpers? Are they Americans living in Europe? One is referred to as a British woman living in Amsterdam. How can this be?! Are these actual Europeans who are somehow pro-trump? It’s both fascinating and absolutely terrifying! When Joe Arpaio was sheriff in Maricopa there were an awful lot of people outside the state who were enthusiastic supporters. To the ones who’d say, “I wish he’d run here!” I’d reply, “You can have him. And take the $50-million plus he’s cost the county taxpayers in lawsuits while you’re at it.” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8057 "2020-12-19T20:56:45Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Agreed. Trump loves their money., and they love emptying their dumb pockets… [https://www.startribune.com/trump-s-future-tons-of-cash-and-plenty-of-options-for-spending-it/573433061/](https://www.startribune.com/trump-s-future-tons-of-cash-and-plenty-of-options-for-spending-it/573433061/) _"During the campaign, many of the large expenditures, like television and digital ad buys, were routed through a secretive LLC called American Made Media Consultants. That allowed the Trump campaign and its joint committee with the national party to effectively shield many details of its spending, including who was being paid and how much. More than $700 million has gone through the LLC since the beginning of 2019._ _What no one knew was that the LLC represented yet another intermingling of Trump’s political, financial and familial interests. New documents reviewed by The New York Times show that Lara Trump, Trump’s daughter-in-law and a senior campaign adviser, served on the board — and was named on drafts of the incorporation papers. So was John Pence, the nephew of Vice President Mike Pence and a senior Trump adviser."_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=401) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=403)