# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8058 "2020-12-19T20:59:54Z")

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Well, heck, family are the only people you can trust, amirite?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8059 "2020-12-19T21:05:44Z")

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Looks like some Money laundering charges are in order.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8060 "2020-12-19T21:25:13Z")

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wonder if one of them has a laptop we could borrow?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8061 "2020-12-19T21:37:03Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Looks like some Money laundering charges are in order.

I hope Joe Biden’s AG has that pretty high on her or his agenda after Jan. 20.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8062 "2020-12-19T22:42:34Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> New documents reviewed by The New York Times show that Lara Trump, Trump’s daughter-in-law and a senior campaign adviser, served on the board — and was named on drafts of the incorporation papers. So was John Pence, the nephew of Vice President Mike Pence and a senior Trump adviser."

Wonder what their salaries are.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8063 "2020-12-20T00:17:03Z")

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Why that’s not possible! We’ve been told by folks RIGHT HERE that it is a terrible thing for Anyone to get a job based on their family connections. I’m sure they will be right along to condemn this. (FTR I don’t care who is on this board. I do care if they have been ripping off suckers)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8064 "2020-12-20T02:19:30Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> "Politicians know better than scientists. " That explains many GOP stances, sure as pollution, global warming and yes, this Pandemic.
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> But if course, in the long term science always wins. Some Republicans know this, but they figure they will just blame it on the Democrats.

In the long run, we’re all dead - but the Republicans are doing their level best to speed it up.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8065 "2020-12-20T05:28:36Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> > [@sachertorte](#):
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> > Are these actual Europeans who are somehow pro-trump?
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> Had I bet on the World Series this year, I would have bet on the Dodgers. Even though they are #2 on my most-hated teams in baseball.

Bite your tongue. When I was five, the terms “baseball team” and “Dodgers” were synonymous. My dad didn’t see fit to disabuse me of the notion, so they’re still synonymous.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8066 "2020-12-20T05:33:09Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> > [@Dr.Colossus](#):
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> > > [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> > > Trump was able to take advantage of some issues that divided the country that he used to maximize his power. If the same issues prevail or get worse, then the same thing could happen again. I have less doubt about that than I do that he will continue to dominate the media and the collective consciousness of the country as he has for the last 4 years. I think his star will fade for a while at least.
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> > He will be a study in the human condition and in poly-sci courses so that maybe we can eventually figure out exactly how this happened, but I agree he captured lightning in a bottle and I’m not 100% sure how they will be able to do that again.
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> I believe this. And Trump will consider this a testament to his genius. But what is really going to be analyzed by future historians is how it came to be that so many voters were so unbelievably fucking stupid – so childishly gullible, so easily conned – that they elected a totally unqualified self-serving and dangerously moronic demagogue.

H. L. Mencken would have been so proud.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8067 "2020-12-20T15:51:45Z")

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Question: Do we get this post locked after Noon on January 20?

The best thing about threads like this(check out the live 9/11 one, for example) is that it captures thoughts as things happened. If someone reads this in the future, they can see the hope, the despair, the worry, and the jubilation…and then again and again.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8068 "2020-12-20T16:51:37Z")

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Offhand, I personally think there should be some time for post inauguration thoughts, and then possible closure of the thread.  
Do we create a new thread for post inauguration lawsuits attempting to reverse the election? (One was filed in New Mexico on Dec 14, though I’m not sure if it was filed before or after the NM EC voted)  
It would not be surprising to me if more are filed.  
Brian

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8069 "2020-12-20T23:36:16Z")

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And Trump tries the Supreme Court:  
[https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-supreme-court-overturn-pa-election-results-74834503](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-supreme-court-overturn-pa-election-results-74834503)

Brian

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8070 "2020-12-20T23:39:56Z")

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At this point I’m picturing American democracy as a china shop, and Trump and his devoted Trumpsters as a wild bull within it. It’s entertaining from afar but should be damned concerning to those living in the china shop.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8071 "2020-12-20T23:42:59Z")

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Without knowing the actual electoral count of PA, and ignoring the ridiculous expectation of Trump, is the reversal of PA. enough to do the trick?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8072 "2020-12-20T23:45:17Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> And Trump tries the Supreme Court:  
> [https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-supreme-court-overturn-pa-election-results-74834503](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-supreme-court-overturn-pa-election-results-74834503)
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> Brian

As far as I can tell, the actual votes in question amount to about 18,300, which 1) wouldn’t change the Pennsylvania outcome; and 2) changing the Pennsylvania outcome wouldn’t change the electoral college outcome. And the Supreme Court is not scheduled to meet again until after the votes are tallied in Congress.

Looks like Guiliani is really set on trying to fleece Trump for every day of $20,000 fees he can get.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8073 "2020-12-20T23:46:07Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Without knowing the actual electoral count of PA, and ignoring the ridiculous expectation of Trump, is the reversal of PA. enough to do the trick? -

Nope. Maybe he figures if he gets Pa., the rest will go like dominoes.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8074 "2020-12-20T23:50:49Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Without knowing the actual electoral count of PA, and ignoring the ridiculous expectation of Trump, is the reversal of PA. enough to do the trick?

Pennsylvania has 20 electoral votes. Flipping it means Biden wins 286 to 252 instead of 306 to 232.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8075 "2020-12-21T00:05:24Z")

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I bet Tump’s hangup here is that Biden matched Trump’s electoral count from 2016. It’s the inaugural crowd syndrome all over again. Or, more correctly, still and again.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8076 "2020-12-21T00:57:15Z")

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Or a [horse in a hospital.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhkZMxgPxXU&list=LLCafjVVFYrsmdjZ7O5SJ4Pw&index=201)

(I’m sure already posted somewhere in this thread)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8077 "2020-12-21T00:57:31Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I bet Tump’s hangup here is that Biden matched Trump’s electoral count from 2016. It’s the inaugural crowd syndrome all over again.

He did win the same amount, but Joe Biden got two more actual votes since. Trump’s vote total was only 304.

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