# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 406
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8118 "2020-12-23T03:07:45Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Conflict: Does he share a personal win with the Democrats (even more so Pelosi) or does he take a loss and stay on the Republicans’ good side? One of the most remarkable things about Trump’s Presidency is how he let establishment Republicans completely talk him out of one of the most powerful parts of his 2016 message – his economic populism. He was speaking Republican heresy in the primaries – he was going to expand entitlement programs, pump _trillions_ of dollars into infrastructure spending, ensure health care coverage for every American. It separated him from the Republican pack and helped him with working Americans who felt that finally here was a Republican who was going to help them even if it meant spending some money. Sure, a lot of it was pipe dreams but he could have pursued some smaller-bore initiatives to show that he was fighting to address the economic insecurities of Americans. Instead, he turned control of his economic agenda over to extremists fiscal conservatives like Russ Vought and Grover Norquist. Likewise, on the stimulus checks, his instincts are right. But he never pressed it because Senate Republicans didn’t want to vote for a bill that cost more than $1 billion. If, before the election, Trump had simply said, “Fuck you, Mitch,” cut a deal with Nancy Pelosi that sent $1,200 checks to every American, and dared Senate Republicans to vote against it, he may well be genuinely preparing for his second term rather than planning for a Potemkin White House in Mar-a-Lago. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8119 "2020-12-23T03:35:58Z")
Send them two thousand or I’ll do it in my next administration! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8120 "2020-12-23T03:55:58Z")
He is insane. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8121 "2020-12-23T04:00:18Z")
I can’t stand listening to him. What is he saying? short summary, anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8122 "2020-12-23T04:17:15Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I can’t stand listening to him. What is he saying? short summary, anyone?  I won by a landslide! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8123 "2020-12-23T04:35:50Z")
…and you should be grateful that I’m fighting to protect American democracy, dammit! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8124 "2020-12-23T06:11:41Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > AZ Judge rules against GOP – who wanted another audit of results. > [https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/11/CV2020014553-elections-m.e.-1.pdf](https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/11/CV2020014553-elections-m.e.-1.pdf) > > Sections: > > > [@](#): > > > > Mandamus Did Not Apply Because the Election Officials Followed the Law > > The Request for Declaratory Relief Was Way Too Late > > A Post-Election Judicial Inquiry into Election Procedures Was Not Justified > > The Proposed Amendment Adding a Claim for Injunctive Relief Was Futile > > Basically, there are 4 criteria, and this failed on all 4 > Brian This is Grand Master level takedown shit going on in this decision yo. He’s gonna award all the attorneys’ fees… ALL of them. This is gonna cost the AZ GOP some money. And maybe some lawyers their licenses. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8125 "2020-12-23T06:52:33Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Trumps latest speech. This guy is so full of shit. But he sounds like he believes what he’s saying, delusional as it is, and that’s enough for 70 million followers to be convinced. Deprogramming former cult members is going to take some time. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8126 "2020-12-23T15:12:42Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Conflict: Does he share a personal win with the Democrats (even more so Pelosi) or does he take a loss and stay on the Republicans’ good side? I don’t see it this way. Donnie doesn’t give a fuck about being or staying on the Republicans’ good side. And he doesn’t care about giving Nancy and the Dems a win. He has millions of fans who would do anything for him. Nothing else matters. Nothing else exists. My take is that trump has just lobbed the ball into Mitch’s court. And the ball (if you’ll excuse the mixed sports metaphor) is that [trick _splat_ ball](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjbzP45_eY0) that the Harlem Globetrotters use. It landed like a pile of 💩 right in front of Mitch. Now he has to use the pooper scooper to deal with it, and Mitch **does** care about Republican good will and never wants Nancy to win anything ever. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8127 "2020-12-23T15:30:53Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I don’t see it this way. Donnie doesn’t give a fuck about being or staying on the Republicans’ good side. And he doesn’t care about giving Nancy and the Dems a win. He has millions of fans who would do anything for him. Nothing else matters. Nothing else exists. Same. He and his followers always talk about how he’s the great negotiator, and always fighting for them. This should feed them for months. It also helps reinforce for them that Mitch was in on the election fraud, and was never on their side (unless they live in Kentucky, of course). ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8128 "2020-12-23T15:56:39Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > One of the most remarkable things about Trump’s Presidency is how he let establishment Republicans completely talk him out of one of the most powerful parts of his 2016 message – his economic populism. He was speaking Republican heresy in the primaries – he was going to expand entitlement programs, pump _trillions_ of dollars into infrastructure spending, ensure health care coverage for every American. He also said he could work across the aisle very well, especially with Chuck and Nancy. The “dealmaker.” Of course, it’s all a sham, but a lot people would have liked that. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8129 "2020-12-23T16:48:29Z")
I don’t think so. I think he appended “and the next administration may be ME” strictly to keep alive the fiction that he still has a prayer. He’ll never give that up because that would cut into his revenue stream. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8130 "2020-12-23T17:59:01Z")
He is a strange man indeed. I saw part of a 38 minute video from a couple days ago in which he continues the rant about voter fraud. He seemed earnest in his belief. Or at least as earnest as Hitler was when he proclaimed Germans as the master race. He may ultimately be a coward, but as long as he has access to the nuclear codes he is potentially very dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8131 "2020-12-23T20:27:23Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Mandamus Did Not Apply Because the Election Officials Followed the Law > The Request for Declaratory Relief Was Way Too Late > A Post-Election Judicial Inquiry into Election Procedures Was Not Justified > The Proposed Amendment Adding a Claim for Injunctive Relief Was Futile I just read through the ruling and those were the actual sections to explain the ruling. I think everyone, especially judges, are getting tired of having to explain why elections are final and you can’t change them with no evidence, especially-doubly so way too late. I laughed that those terms were used. “Way too late” 😆 ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8132 "2020-12-23T21:09:57Z")
Whelp, Trump just vetoed the defense authorization bill. I guess we’ll see how much swing he still has with Congressional Republicans on the motion to override. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8133 "2020-12-24T03:52:46Z")
From the veto statement: > [@](#): > > The president also opposes a provision that would require the Pentagon to change the names of military bases named for former Confederate soldiers who fought in the US Civil War. > > “I have been clear in my opposition to politically motivated attempts like this to wash away history and to dishonor the immense progress our country has fought for in realizing our founding principles,” Trump wrote. About a clear statement as you’re likely to get that Trump believes white supremacy is a founding principle of the US. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8134 "2020-12-25T05:40:00Z")
So in Trumpworld the _Confederates_, the ones trying to break up the United States, were fighting for the nation’s founding principles? I can’t say I’m surprised, but still… bleccch. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8135 "2020-12-25T12:41:43Z")
Two senate candidates in particular are scared spineless to publicly discuss their intentions regarding a veto override. > **[Georgia Republicans silent on overriding Trump veto of defense bill](https://www.ajc.com/politics/georgia-republicans-silent-on-overriding-trump-veto-of-defense-bill/GDDZXOMOYJFYFLWG5H2TUVPE7M/)** > > Georgia Republicans overwhelming voted in favor of the National Defense Authorization Act, but now they must decide whether they will vote with Democrats to override President Donald Trump's veto. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8136 "2020-12-25T12:41:50Z")
Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals Affirms Trump v Wis Election Commission decision: [https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1342223486589280257/photo/1](https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1342223486589280257/photo/1) Merry Christmas, Brian ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8137 "2020-12-25T16:10:30Z")
1-59 is pretty bad, but what was their 1 victory about? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=405) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=407)