# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 411
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8219 "2020-12-30T15:47:24Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > McConnell has poison-pilled the $2000 stimulus check with a Section 230 repeal and a commission on voter fraud. > [@JohnT](#): > > I get $2000 _and_ Facebook is destroyed _and_ I’m cured of my Twitter addiction? All for some bullshit commission being run by the Dems during a Democratic administration? Scott (Jennings, I think?), conservative commentator on CNN this morning, argued basically the same thing: Democrats should jump on this proposal from Mitch. He said that the repeal of Section 230 would remove entities such as QAnon, and the election fraud commission would be just as ineffective as the last one put in place by the current administration. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8220 "2020-12-30T16:55:31Z")
Missouri Senator Josh Hawley announces he will contest the EC vote in Congress. > **[Sen. Josh Hawley to object to Electoral College results](https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/hawley-to-object-to-electoral-college-results/article_f2ee2ff5-0305-5b19-bd54-572a243e5ccb.html#tracking-source=home-breaking)** > > Missouri’s junior senator becomes the first senator to say he’ll object to the certification. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8221 "2020-12-30T16:57:16Z")
It will be interesting to see how many other Senate Republicans fall all over themselves to object as well now that Hawley has opened this door. No more sitting on the sidelines for them! ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8222 "2020-12-30T18:05:54Z")
Rudy hits a new low. Testifying, right now, before Georgia Senate. Told them that they have the Zapbruder (sic) film. This film, according to Rudy, proves “the inadequacy of the Warren Commission”, which “lives in infamy.” Yeah, turn out he’s a JFK conspiracy nut too. Or maybe people already knew this, and I’m late to the party. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8223 "2020-12-30T20:05:10Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Rudy hits a new low. > > Testifying, right now, before Georgia Senate. Told them that they have the Zapbruder (sic) film. This film, according to Rudy, proves “the inadequacy of the Warren Commission”, which “lives in infamy.” And this relates to the presidential election in Georgia…how, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8224 "2020-12-30T20:07:36Z")
In my fantasy version of a democratic America, every congressperson or Senator who objects, plus every congressperson who signed on to that idiotic Texas lawsuit, needs to be beat over the head with that from now until Election Day 2022. “My opponent has revealed himself to be anti-democratic, pro-authoritarian, and a slave to former president Trump”. The trick is, how to say that without the implied “And you suckers voted for him last time.” ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8225 "2020-12-30T21:30:07Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > And this relates to the presidential election in Georgia…how, exactly? He’s comparing the video of Georgia election workers moving boxes. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8226 "2020-12-30T22:22:44Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > > > McConnell has poison-pilled the $2000 stimulus check with a Section 230 repeal and a commission on voter fraud. > > > [@JohnT](#): > > > > I get $2000 _and_ Facebook is destroyed _and_ I’m cured of my Twitter addiction? All for some bullshit commission being run by the Dems during a Democratic administration? > > Scott (Jennings, I think?), conservative commentator on CNN this morning, argued basically the same thing: Democrats should jump on this proposal from Mitch. He said that the repeal of Section 230 would remove entities such as QAnon, and the election fraud commission would be just as ineffective as the last one put in place by the current administration. There are a lot of Democrats who want to repeal Section 230 (though they want to create something else as well as opposed to just getting rid of it). A lot of hate speech and harassment lawsuits would be able to be filed, as well as suing Twitter for allowing libel… like, you know, from Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8227 "2020-12-30T22:50:08Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > There are a lot of Democrats who want to repeal Section 230 (though they want to create something else as well as opposed to just getting rid of it). I haven’t seen anything to that effect - do you have any examples of suggested replacement legislation with widespread Democrat support? I found [this list](https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/litigation/publications/competing-congressional-and-executive-branch-proposals-to-revise-section-230-of-the-communications-decency-act?id=38310) of proposals, but none of it gotten any real support that I’m aware of. The most I’ve heard is vague signaling that some kinds of revisions would be good, but never anything concrete. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8228 "2020-12-30T22:51:01Z")
Pretty sure the first time the Zapruder film was shown to the public was on Geraldo Rivera’s show in the 1970s. Geraldo who is now pleading with Trump (long time friend) to stop being a sore loser. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8229 "2020-12-30T22:58:35Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > > [@ISiddiqui](#): > > > > There are a lot of Democrats who want to repeal Section 230 (though they want to create something else as well as opposed to just getting rid of it). > > I haven’t seen anything to that effect - do you have any examples of suggested replacement legislation with widespread Democrat support? > > I found [this list](https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/litigation/publications/competing-congressional-and-executive-branch-proposals-to-revise-section-230-of-the-communications-decency-act?id=38310) of proposals, but none of it gotten any real support that I’m aware of. I don’t think there is an agreement of a replacement, but there is an idea that something should take its place as opposed to just a repudiation (amend rather than repeal). Which is likely one of the reasons Democrats haven’t jumped on Trump saying he wants Section 230 repealed (which Biden himself said he wanted at some point during the summer, but hasn’t weighed in recently about it). ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8230 "2020-12-30T23:05:33Z")
Here are some comments from February (but no agreed upon of what should replace): > **[Democrats are open to changing one of the internet's bedrock principles](https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/section-230-democrats-2020/)** > > Some 2020 Democrats have made their opinions known about Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, an important law for the modern internet. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8231 "2020-12-30T23:22:07Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > McConnell has poison-pilled the $2000 stimulus check with a Section 230 repeal and a commission on voter fraud. > **[McConnell says push by Democrats, Trump for $2,000 stimulus checks has ‘no...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/12/30/stimulus-checks-senate/)** > > A last-minute congressional push to deliver $2,000 stimulus checks to most Americans appeared to be politically imperiled on Wednesday, as mounting Republican objections to swift passage of the plussed-up payments threatened to run out the... > “The Senate is not going to be bullied into rushing out more borrowed money into the hands of Democrats’ rich friends who don’t need the help,” McConnell said on the Senate floor. “If there’s going to be any bullying, **I’M** going to be the one doing it.” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8232 "2020-12-30T23:25:25Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > > > McConnell has poison-pilled the $2000 stimulus check with a Section 230 repeal and a commission on voter fraud. > > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/12/30/stimulus-checks-senate/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/12/30/stimulus-checks-senate/) > > > “The Senate is not going to be bullied into rushing out more borrowed money into the hands of Democrats’ rich friends who don’t need the help,” McConnell said on the Senate floor. > > “If there’s going to be any bullying, **I’M** going to be the one doing it.” - “And that money is supposed to go into the hands of Republicans’ rich friends where it belongs.” ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8233 "2020-12-31T00:50:10Z")
I think I saw it on the Lou Gordon show. I don’t think Geraldo had a show then. Back then IIRC he was known as “the hip reporter who knows Lennon.” He had different masters then to say the least. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8234 "2020-12-31T01:00:57Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Can’t really feel bad for him, though. If you’re going to jump on board the Trump train, he expects nothing less than total subservience in all things – up to and including illegal and unconscionable actions to keep him in office. You could almost sort of feel bad for him if he took the opportunity of this constant humiliation from Trump to rethink his approach to life. But his lips are still firmly attached to Trump’s ass. It’s so hard to comprehend what kind of pathetic person can behave that way. See also, Jefferson Beauregard Sessions. Hopefully, Kemp will end up in the dustbin of history with him. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8235 "2020-12-31T01:04:31Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > I think I saw it on the Lou Gordon show. I don’t think Geraldo had a show then. The first US network showing of the Zapruder film was on March 6, 1975, on _Good Night America_, hosted by Geraldo Rivera. It had been shown on local stations before that. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8236 "2020-12-31T01:09:23Z")
Lou was an early tabloid type host who was syndicated on the Kaiser System, UHF stations. He died early on of a heart attack. He must have jumped on this. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8237 "2020-12-31T06:29:54Z")
If the the Democrats did decide to call his bluff, I actually wouldn’t be surprised he ended up filibustering his own bill [like he did back in 2012](https://theweek.com/articles/469675/mitch-mcconnells-amazing-filibuster-bill). I can’t imagine that Republicans really want to open up big business to crippling law suits by consuners, and the election fraud investigation is going to look just as ridiculous on the senate floor as it did in court. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8238 "2020-12-31T09:05:58Z")
Trump has decided to make a sudden return to DC, cancelling his New Year’s Eve celebrations in Florida. Any idea what’s going on in that rat’s nest he calls a mind? > **[Trump returns to Washington early ahead of Republican plan to disrupt...](https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/30/politics/trump-returning-to-washington-early/index.html)** > > President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump headed back to Washington Thursday morning in a departure that was earlier than anticipated as some Republicans plan to delay certification of President-elect Joe Biden's election win when Congress... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=410) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=412)