# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8339 "2021-01-05T18:48:25Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Pence had ONE JOB (Constitutionally), and he’s too much of a chicken shit to actually do it tomorrow.

The precedent is Humphrey, who didn’t preside over the counting of his losing votes.

I wonder how often a VP has lost the election, and then bailed on the counting? Gore showed up, Humphrey didn’t. Nixon somewhat famously did (and accepted Hawaii’s votes for Kennedy which were in actual dispute). Too lazy to look for others.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8340 "2021-01-05T19:29:33Z")

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Did Georgia pre-sort votes already for today’s election so we know who won tonight?

Or is this going to take days to count again?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8341 "2021-01-05T19:33:39Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Proposition 13 back in 1978 was perhaps the most infamous one, putting severe restrictions on property taxes.

Prop 13 was desperately necessary. People were being taxed out of their homes by fluctuations in the market caused by speculators.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8342 "2021-01-05T20:17:41Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> Right, but Virginia, Washington, and Wisconsin are all after Vermont.

Ah, I see what you mean. I forgot to check and see who is after Vermont and what they add up to – I was thinking just that most of the “disputed” states come before Vermont.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8343 "2021-01-05T20:32:52Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> I wonder how often a VP has lost the election, and then bailed on the counting?

Since the Electoral Count Act was adopted in 1876, the only incumbent Vice Presidents who have lost a Presidential election were Gore, Humphrey, Nixon. There have been a couple more incumbent VPs who sought but failed to obtain their party’s nomination for President, but damned if I’m going to do the research to determine whether Charles W. Fairbanks chaired the joint session to confirm William Taft. 😀

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8344 "2021-01-05T21:33:09Z")

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I, for one, will strive to contain my disappointment.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8345 "2021-01-06T00:57:56Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> It’s hard to see why the GOP would bother objecting to Wisconsin once Biden already has 271. Oh, wait, political theater - never mind.

It could also be seen as an effort to keep Biden from matching Trump’s 306 “landslide” electoral victory in 2016. You know that galls Trump to no end.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8346 "2021-01-06T01:13:16Z")

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Trump got 304 (two unfaithful electors) so even more unpleasant.

Brian

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8347 "2021-01-06T01:17:14Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Did Georgia pre-sort votes already for today’s election so we know who won tonight?
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> Or is this going to take days to count again

I’ve seen, but have no handy cite, that they did prepare the absentee ballots that they’ve received so far, and they only have to drop them in the machines to be counted.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8348 "2021-01-06T01:17:55Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> I’ve seen, but have no handy cite, that they did prepare the absentee ballots that they’ve received so far

I’m reading online the result may not be known tonight? Overseas and military ballots delayed?

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8349 "2021-01-06T01:27:20Z")

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Honestly, I don’t know - it depends on the rules Georgia has for how late ballots can come in. It might be by a certain time today, or postmarked by today, or something else entirely.  
Also, it just takes a long time to count _all_ the votes; so if it’s close, then we’ll just have to wait. If it’s not terribly close, then we may know late tonight or early tomorrow.

And then the court cases begin…

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8350 "2021-01-06T01:32:01Z")

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Both Democrats are currently ahead. I assume that means we should stop the count and any additional votes are fraudulent.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8351 "2021-01-06T01:42:12Z")

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Nearly half the votes are in, and we’re ahead. That’s a good sample, right? Let me tell you, that’s a good sample. That’s a perfect sample. We won, believe me. No point in continuing this. They just want to continue it, they want to count more ballots, because they think they can still win. We need to stop this right now. We need to stop it. It’s a disgrace, what they’re doing, counting more votes. It’s a disgrace, let me tell you.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8352 "2021-01-06T01:49:02Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> Since the Electoral Count Act was adopted in 1876, the only incumbent Vice Presidents who have lost a Presidential election were Gore, Humphrey, Nixon.

There were also Veeps, like Pence, who were defeated in their attempt at a second term as Veep and would have been the presiding officer recording their defeat: Charles Curtis (1932 election), Walter Mondale (1980), and Dan Quayle (1992).

There were also those who got dumped from the ticket and presided over their successor’s election as Veep: Thomas Hendricks (1888), Levi P. Morton (1892), John Nance Garner (1940), Henry Wallace (1944), and Nelson Rockefeller (1976).

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8353 "2021-01-06T01:53:32Z")

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Oh, and here’s a cite about scanning absentee ballots:

> <https://twitter.com/JustinGrayWSB/status/1346632949521899522?s=20>

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8354 "2021-01-06T04:23:39Z")

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Warnock just took a 20K lead over Loeffler.

Perdue’s lead over Ossoff just shrank to 20K.

Still about 5% left in Fulton. Some vote still out in Cobb and Chatham.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8355 "2021-01-06T06:13:51Z")

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Taking the Senate completes the Democratic sweep. This wasn’t the huge tsunami I was hoping for, but if 2 months ago you had told me we’d get all three prizes, though the House and Senate margin would be razor thin, I would have been ecstatic and taken it in a heartbeat.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8356 "2021-01-06T07:46:03Z")

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Warnock has been called the winner, and ossoff is in the lead,

This election may finally be finished in a week or two.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8357 "2021-01-06T08:21:06Z")

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Vox calls it for Ossoff. AP still hasn’t called it yet with 98% of vote counted and Ossoff leading by 12.8K votes and 50.15%.

> **[Jon Ossoff beats Sen. David Perdue, handing Democrats control of the Senate](https://www.vox.com/2021/1/6/22213094/jon-ossoff-beats-david-perdue-georgia-senate-election)**
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> Ossoff’s win in Georgia will give Democrats a slim Senate majority.

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> Democrat Jon Ossoff has won a Georgia Senate seat, beating Republican David Perdue in one of the state’s pivotal runoffs on Tuesday.
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> The race was called by Vox’s elections partner Decision Desk at 2:14 am ET.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8358 "2021-01-06T08:25:51Z")

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Meme of the day: Laughing my Ossoff.

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