# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/821 "2020-11-04T04:45:52Z")

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Fox’s polling outfit has a reputation for integrity, actually. I assume they have some reason for this but, honestly, I do not see this in the numbers. Votes expected from Trumpy counties are like 300-400 thousand greater than from Biden counties.

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**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/822 "2020-11-04T04:46:11Z")

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Biden lead extended in AZ just now so maybe the call was right

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/823 "2020-11-04T04:46:16Z")

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It’s looking more and more like 2016. Just a different map.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/824 "2020-11-04T04:47:24Z")

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[This is why I’m just going by the AP (via NPR).](https://www.npr.org/) Not ABC, not Fox News, not CNN.

I only believe a state has gone one way or another if the AP calls it, shuffling around to different news sites is just ridiculous and mind scrambling.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/825 "2020-11-04T04:47:39Z")

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lol Reince Prebus is thanking CBS for not calling AZ for Biden [like Fox News].

The CBS commentators are joking that they’re going to use it as an ad. Hilarious.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/826 "2020-11-04T04:48:25Z")

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Fox calls Ohio for Trump.

So far only Arizona and NE-2 are different from 2016. Biden must get a lot of post-Election Day votes in PA, WI, and MI. There is nowhere else to get them.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/827 "2020-11-04T04:48:46Z")

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Yes. They called Obama '12 more or less perfectly. They were also the ones predicting that Latinos might break more than expected for Trump this time.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/828 "2020-11-04T04:49:02Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> [This is why I’m just going by the AP (via NPR).](https://www.npr.org/) Not ABC, not Fox News, not CNN.
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> I only believe a state has gone one way or another if the AP calls it, shuffling around to different news sites is just ridiculous and mind scrambling

That graphic clearly shows that Trump wins.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/829 "2020-11-04T04:49:49Z")

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Maricopa county is currently reporting at 77%. The total number of uncounted votes is likely greater than all the other counties combined.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/830 "2020-11-04T04:49:53Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I do not see this in the numbers.

Same here. Essentially all the counted ballots in AZ are from early votes. Everything from today still remains to be counted, and that will skew heavily Trump.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/831 "2020-11-04T04:49:56Z")

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[quote=“Aji\_de\_Gallina, post:811, topic:924618”]  
what have the Dems done to get their votes"[/quote]

Nothing. They nominated Biden. The last choice among all Democrats who are even remotely progressive, hell not progressive, just a little to the left of center. Dem primary voters bought into the whole “most likely to defeat Trump” and “he can work with the other side” stuff. If it had not been for COVID, the election would already be over in a Trump landslide, with Biden as a candidate.

Dems once again pick the worst possible candidate. Biden, Hilllary, Kerry, Dukakis.

Anyway, too early for this. We can talk about why Biden lost if he actually loses, the odds are still in his favor

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/832 "2020-11-04T04:51:05Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> [election results - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=election%2Bresults)

They currently have Biden winning the popular vote by 1.3 million.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/833 "2020-11-04T04:52:52Z")

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> [@Mike\_Mabes](#):
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> Nothing. They nominated Biden

Oops, sorry, the question was what have Dems done to win over hardcore Republicans. I don’t think they can

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/834 "2020-11-04T04:52:55Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> That graphic clearly shows that Trump wins.

It’s 209-118 for Biden at this moment. It’s the same as the Google/AP result.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/835 "2020-11-04T04:53:08Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> That graphic clearly shows that Trump wins.

No, that graphic clearly does not show that. It actually shows Biden up at this moment, 209-118. It also shows Trump leading in some states that have yet to start reporting early votes. But it clearly does not show that Trump wins.

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/836 "2020-11-04T04:54:36Z")

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I feel sick.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/837 "2020-11-04T04:55:00Z")

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That may be true but just to clarify, this is a function of a fractured electorate, not insider politics. The challenge we face in stopping trump us the same one that other pluralistic democracies face: how different constituencies can unite under one banner to take on a common nemesis.

I don’t care if Biden is projected the winner at this point. We as a country - not just the Democratic Party establishment - had a collective civic duty to put a stop to Trumpism. I don’t think we did it, and I think we are in very deep shit

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**Author:** ![Nayna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ebca7d/32.png) [@Nayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nayna)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/838 "2020-11-04T04:55:23Z")

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Me, too! (11:52 p.m. ET here now). LOL’d in my bed, and my husband yelled up from the basement, “WHAT?!”

Thanks for the laugh.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/839 "2020-11-04T04:56:34Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> No, that graphic clearly does not show that. It actually shows Biden up at this moment, 209-118. It also shows Trump leading in some states that have yet to start reporting early votes. But it clearly does not show that Trump wins

Ok. I guess you don’t see all the states they have indicated are “Stronger Trump Lead”

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/840 "2020-11-04T04:56:52Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I don’t care if Biden is projected the winner at this point. We as a country - not just the Democratic Party establishment - had a collective civic duty to put a stop to Trumpism. I don’t think we did it, and I think we are in very deep shit

This. Although I’m not sure what we could have done to stop it. These people have literally had an alternate reality constructed for them. How to compete?

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