# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 426
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8519 "2021-01-08T03:46:38Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > However, with impeachment you could bar him from office in the future. And also he could lose his pension, and other perks that ex-Presidents receive. So it’s worth doing. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8520 "2021-01-08T03:47:31Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > And also he could lose his pension, and other perks that ex-Presidents receive. Do they keep the impeachment trial going after he’s done being president? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8521 "2021-01-08T03:51:31Z")
Pretty sure no but since we’ve never been here where someone could ask the question I really don’t know. The main objective of impeachment is removal so it would seem it ends when he’s gone. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8522 "2021-01-08T03:54:47Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Do they keep the impeachment trial going after he’s done being president? There is historical precedent for impeachment proceedings after someone leaves office. > **[Can the House Impeach a Former President?](https://reason.com/volokh/2019/12/05/can-the-house-impeach-a-former-president/)** > > Representative Matt Gaetz was widely mocked yesterday for suggesting during the impeachment hearing that "maybe it's a different president we… In 1876, Secretary of War William Belknap resigned as the House was considering impeaching him for a newly revealed corruption scandal. The [House impeached him anyway](https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-HPREC-HINDS-V3/html/GPO-HPREC-HINDS-V3-26.htm), and the Senate rejected a motion to dismiss the case for want of jurisdiction over a former federal officer. Belknap was not convicted, in part because some senators doubted their authority to do so. Condemning Belknap’s actions and disqualifying him from future office seemed a sufficient reason to proceed for many in the House and Senate. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8523 "2021-01-08T04:06:15Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > But he wasn’t wearing his red tie. That means it wasn’t a true speech. And the gold fringe on the flag something something. High level 5th dimensional chess going on right here. Rearrange the words and letters - he’s communicating with his followers in code only they know. Do your research. All is well. > > /s for anyone who hasn’t read me before. Did somebody count his eye blinks? Wait…never mind… ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8524 "2021-01-08T04:57:33Z")
Interesting comment from Yousef Munayyer: > ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8525 "2021-01-08T05:27:26Z")
Is it just me, or does his body language appear to anyone else as extremely restrained? Almost like there’s a straightjacket underneath the blazer. There’s no gesticulations, no manspreading… Every so often he seems to wince, as if somebody below camera is jabbing him with a fork. Weird. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8526 "2021-01-08T05:36:04Z")
And oddly Disney just got paid $2M for a new audio animatronic figure from the White House. Just a coincidence i am sure. 😝 🤪 😜 ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8527 "2021-01-08T05:49:37Z")
I seem to remember the end of some House of Wax-ish story where the villain ends up as one of his own mannequins, just staring out at the world. Donald Trump’s punishment? Having to serve as an animatronic figure in Disneyland Hall of Presidents. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8528 "2021-01-08T05:52:05Z")
I wouldnt wish that on any human being… 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8529 "2021-01-08T05:52:49Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > Donald Trump’s punishment? Having to serve as an animatronic figure in Disneyland Hall of Presidents. Or in Pirates of the Caribbean. [![](https://cdn1.parksmedia.wdprapps.disney.com/resize/mwImage/1/1920/1080/75/dam/wdpro-assets/dlr/parks-and-tickets/attractions/disneyland/pirates-of-the-caribbean/pirates-of-the-caribbean-00.jpg?1559891011103) ](https://cdn1.parksmedia.wdprapps.disney.com/resize/mwImage/1/1920/1080/75/dam/wdpro-assets/dlr/parks-and-tickets/attractions/disneyland/pirates-of-the-caribbean/pirates-of-the-caribbean-00.jpg?1559891011103) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8530 "2021-01-08T05:53:32Z")
How about we put him in the “It’s a Small World” ride? Hearing that same saccharine song on infinite loop… ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8531 "2021-01-08T06:33:04Z")
> [@mistymage](#): > > > [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > > > "I immediately deployed the National Guard and Federal Law Enforcement … " > > > > > The man literally can’t make a 3 minute speech without lying. > > And “his People” couldn’t do any video magic to make it appear he was human. Like they don’t know how to do Deep Fakes. > [@CaptMurdock](#): > > Is it just me, or does his body language appear to anyone else as extremely restrained? Almost like there’s a straightjacket underneath the blazer. There’s no gesticulations, no manspreading… Every so often he seems to wince, as if somebody below camera is jabbing him with a fork. Weird. To both of the above: we can now add to his vast list of incompetencies “world’s worst actor”. It is so transparently obvious that the orange moron is reading a prepared script, and doing so with extreme reluctance – hence the “hostage tone” that others have mentioned. Punctuated with that trademark sniffing that we sometimes hear – but usually don’t: there sure as hell wasn’t any sniffing when he was inciting violence in front of adoring Trumpists earlier on that fateful day. It’s probably a sign of stress. Anyway, you give the guy a script written by his speechwriters on the urgent advice of his remaining staffers – which may henceforth become known as “the 25th Amendment Avoidance Speech” – and he can’t even read it with any hint of conviction. It comes off like a comedic SNL parody. No one will believe it except Trumpists, who clearly will believe anything. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8532 "2021-01-08T06:39:34Z")
ETA: And since the orange shit-gibbon has the convictions and attention span of a six-year old, he’ll be back to his normal self within a day or so and start spewing conspiracy theories again. He can’t help himself. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8533 "2021-01-08T12:20:07Z")
GA lawsuit (Still v Raffensperger) voluntarily dismissed: [https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/12/Still-v.-Raffensperger.pdf](https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/12/Still-v.-Raffensperger.pdf) According to Democracy Docket, Trump allies are now 1-63 Brian ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8534 "2021-01-08T12:22:19Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > GA lawsuit (Still v Raffensperger) voluntarily dismissed: Wonder what the out-of-court agreement was. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8535 "2021-01-08T12:22:44Z")
He apparently only made the video after his people warned him that threatening an insurrection could be, you know, a criminal offence: > **[Capitol Attack Leads Democrats to Demand That Trump Leave Office (Published...](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/us/politics/trump-leave-office-resignation.html)** > > The White House was propelled deeper into crisis as officials resigned in protest and prominent Republicans broke with the president after he incited a mob that assaulted Congress. > [@](#): > > Mr. Trump initially resisted taping the video, agreeing to do it only after aides pressed him and he appeared to suddenly realize he could face legal risk for prodding the mob, coming shortly after the chief federal prosecutor for Washington left open the possibility of investigating the president for illegally inciting the attack by telling supporters to march on the Capitol and show strength. > > Pat A. Cipollone, the White House counsel, had warned Mr. Trump of just that danger on Wednesday as aides frantically tried to get the president to intervene and publicly call off rioters, which he did only belatedly, reluctantly and halfheartedly. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8536 "2021-01-08T12:54:48Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > He apparently only made the video after his people warned him that threatening an insurrection could be, you know, a criminal offence: This is really fascinating-- that there finally was **something** that got his attention. I didn’t think anything would or could. So apparently he IS afraid of going to jail, this man who has never suffered the consequences of any action that he couldn’t buy or bluff his way out of. But I’m sure he still doesn’t believe he did anything that he SHOULD be held accountable for. He probably sees this as just a bigger bully (the law enforcement mechanism) beating him down. Still wrong, still not fair, but he’s temporarily blocked. No wonder he sounded like a hostage in that video. In his mind he is a hostage. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8537 "2021-01-08T13:08:35Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > He apparently only made the video after his people warned him that threatening an insurrection could be, you know, a criminal offence I assumed as much. The halting, monotonic, sniffing delivery just radiated hypocrisy and coercion, like he despised every word he was being forced to say, which of course he did since it contradicted all his bluster of the previous two days. I see no reason that this phony display of contemptible hypocrisy peppered with lies should exonerate him from the criminal liability that he so richly deserves. It might ease the political pressures to have him removed before the 20th, but as for his criminality, to use his own words about COVID, “it is what it is”, and he should bear full responsibility for it after he leaves office. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8538 "2021-01-08T13:30:06Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > The halting, monotonic, sniffing delivery just radiated hypocrisy and coercion, like he despised every word he was being forced to say, which of course he did since it contradicted all his bluster of the previous two days. Oh, yeah, it was obviously a “hostage” video. “Read the cards, sir. Every word. Nope, try again.” He huffed off after, I’m sure. I wish it was January 20. A humiliating ending. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=425) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=427)