# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 433
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8659 "2021-01-15T20:43:23Z")
Republicans are marginal at the national level anyway. Even if he carves off a sliver of support, that will hurt them. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8660 "2021-01-15T20:45:29Z")
Even as he becomes background noise he will help maintain a deep schism in the Republican party that will last as long as he does. It wont make much difference in strong Blue or Red areas, but in “Purple” areas that schism can make the difference between a GOP win and a Dem win. That old adage “Democrats fall in love. Republicans fall in line” is about to be pressure-tested. IMHO if the GOP was smart about this, they would take Pelosi’s impeachment as an opportunity to put Trump in the rear-view and bury his “movement” ASAP. Otherwise they may be spending the next couple of election cycles wandering in the wilderness. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8661 "2021-01-15T21:18:31Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > Otherwise they may be spending the next couple of election cycles wandering in the wilderness. You people _know_ that isn’t going to happen, right? They will regroup and that will be that. Democrats are always their own worst enemy in that they are unable to work as a cohesive mass to get anything done. We will lose seats at the midterm, losing control of the Senate at least. No way in the world can the Democrats keep it together long enough to actually increase their hold, even though 2022 would be the year to do it. This is why I drink. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8662 "2021-01-15T21:30:00Z")
Indeed. I feel I’ve been hearing some variant of “Republicans are one election cycle away from becoming irrelevant” for probably close to two decades now, and I don’t feel it’s any closer to being true now as it was then. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8663 "2021-01-15T21:46:12Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > > > …It goes against a prime tenant of modern justice… > > Tenet [Thank you!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elements-that-comprise-your-beliefs-dont-pay-rent/88232) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8664 "2021-01-15T21:59:04Z")
“Vice President Mike Pence has called his soon-to-be successor Kamala Harris to offer his congratulations, according to two people familiar with the conversation.It’s the first known contact between the elected members of the outgoing and incoming administrations. President Donald Trump has not reached out to President-elect Joe Biden and has repeatedly questioned the legitimacy of Biden’s win.” Five days before the inauguration. Fuck You, Pence, you piece of shit. > **[Pence Calls VP-Elect Kamala Harris to Offer Congratulations](https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/mike-pence-calls-kamala-harris-to-offer-congratulations/2417228/)** > > Vice President Mike Pence has called Vice President-elect Kamala Harris to offer his congratulations ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8665 "2021-01-15T22:11:16Z")
Maybe, just maybe, almost getting lynched changed his perspective on things? NAH! Just the kind and decent thing to do? NAH! Sticking a fork in his master’s ass? POSSIBLE BUT WISHFUL THINKING THAT HIS ORANGIOUS WOULD EVEN FEEL IT! Angling for an invite, anything to get away from the CHEETOLINI? MOST LIKELY! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8666 "2021-01-15T23:43:29Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Five days before the inauguration. Fuck You, Pence, you piece of shit. Pence is clearly hoping for a run in 2024. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8667 "2021-01-15T23:59:58Z")
I hope he’s planning to run for Top Turd. He’s a natural. And Pence, you hateful fuck, go fuck yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8668 "2021-01-16T00:27:42Z")
Donald Trump running independetnly(MAGA-party) vs Mike Pence the Republican and Biden(or Harris if he opts out…uh, or dies) would be a great election. Trump and Pence would both get their share and Biden-Harris would fly along with no issue. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8669 "2021-01-16T00:35:16Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Pence is clearly hoping for a run in 2024. My fervent wish for 2024 – and any election cycle thereafter – is just that I never have to see or hear from the Orange Fuck ever again. I’m in favor of anything that helps achieve that, including a Pence run. Once the Orange Fuck is out of the picture, we can talk about the least evil options for (R) candidates. Pence would certainly be among the least desirable and potentially most destructive. But politically sidelining the Orange Fuck and any member of his family has to be the #1 priority. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8670 "2021-01-16T00:42:57Z")
Try after the 1964 election (and possibly earlier, but that’s my earliest recollection). Also, the same was said about the Democrats in 1980 and 1988. The (US) American voter has the long-term memory of a mayfly. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8671 "2021-01-16T01:07:50Z")
Honestly, they don’t even like Pence in Indiana where he used to be the governor. The only reason anyone knows Pence’s homophobic name is because Trump chose him as VP. Let Pence try a nationwide run. As I mentioned, they don’t even like him in Indiana. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8672 "2021-01-16T01:13:46Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Honestly, they don’t even like Pence in Indiana where he used to be the governor. Was he close to a recall back in Indiana before he became VP? I knew he was unpopular. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8674 "2021-01-16T07:07:18Z")
I remember Pence gaining his 15 minutes of fame by pushing through one of those RFRA bills that protected Indiana bakeries from gay marriage. He posed with some people that were more odious than the usual religious right suspects and it drew national attention. The thing I remember most was that some pizza joint in Indiana got really vocal about not wanting to be forced to make pizzas for gay weddings and crowdfunded almost a million bucks. That’s some real grassroots grift right there. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8675 "2021-01-16T07:42:20Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > My fervent wish for 2024 – and any election cycle thereafter – is just that I never have to see or hear from the Orange Fuck ever again. I’m in favor of anything that helps achieve that, including a Pence run. Once the Orange Fuck is out of the picture, we can talk about the least evil options for (R) candidates. Pence would certainly be among the least desirable and potentially most destructive. But politically sidelining the Orange Fuck and any member of his family has to be the #1 priority. I can get behind this. Pence has his faults, but has shown in the past few days that he could be Presidential, unlike the CFSG (or should that be Orange-utang?). He’s not perfect, but he will likely attempt a run, based on the fact that he didn’t listen to the CFSG when he was ordered to overturn the results of a valid election. No, he couldn’t, in spite of what the CFSG said, and he stuck to tradition. This will resonate with RINOs, not Trumpists. I have a feeling that Trump will mount a 2024 campaign, but not as a Republican. He’ll hold rallies, and have his press office get messages out there in response to Biden initiatives, and so on; but he will ultimately run as an independent, since real Republicans have had enough of this jackass. Trumpists will get on board immediately, but regular Republicans won’t, and Trump will end up like Ross Perot and John Anderson: not in office. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8676 "2021-01-16T10:57:38Z")
I doubt he’ll run again, this ending will sting for a long time, he won’t want to risk another serving I suspect. But he’s got big plans for Ivanka, and she’s got her eyes on a political career. She reckons her resume is now golden, part of the West Wing inner circle for four years, security clearance, experience on the international stage, deep pockets, etc, etc. He WILL be able to rally conservatives to install the FIRST female US president. They’ll all feel so up to date and modern, convinced they ARE forward thinkers, NOT regressive troglodytes. She’s the threat, I suspect. She’s going to try and attend the inauguration so as to look like NOT a sore loser, with an eye to the future. She’s had a taste of it and she likes it, I think! ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8677 "2021-01-16T13:49:07Z")
Depending on whose opinion you believe, Ivanka’s future political prospects are trashed now. > **[Ivanka Trump in 'a bit of a panic': CNN](https://www.alternet.org/2021/01/ivanka-trump-2649950471)** > > First daughter Ivanka Trump once had designs on running for political office, but her father's role in inciting a mob to attack the United States Capitol building last week may have permanently hobbled her political career. > > Sources tell CNN White... ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8678 "2021-01-16T13:58:25Z")
A ~~cl~~ ass act to the end, amirite? > **[Trump to leave Washington on morning of Biden's inauguration](https://apnews.com/article/trump-leave-washington-6fe43f2e5f1c8d25d0f63f99be9d91cc)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump will leave Washington next Wednesday morning just before President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration to begin his post-presidential life in Florida. > WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump will leave Washington next Wednesday morning just before President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration to begin his post-presidential life in Florida. > > Refusing to abide by tradition and participate in the ceremonial transfer of power, Trump will instead hold his own departure ceremony at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland before his final flight aboard Air Force One. > > Officials are considering an elaborate send-off event reminiscent of the receptions he’s received during state visits abroad, complete with a red carpet, color guard, military band and even a 21-gun salute, according to a person familiar with the planning who spoke on condition of anonymity ahead of a formal announcement. > … Good grief! Certainly NOT! What “officials” are these??? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8679 "2021-01-16T14:13:47Z")
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