# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 434
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8680 "2021-01-16T14:14:56Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > He WILL be able to rally conservatives to install the FIRST female US president. They’ll all feel so up to date and modern, convinced they ARE forward thinkers, NOT regressive troglodytes. I think the only way that Trump could get his base to rally behind Ivanka is if they sold it as a “Ma Ferguson” situation — i.e. she’d be the figurehead while he really ran things. Otherwise, I just can’t see them rallying to her. Not necessarily because she’s a woman, but because she is so clearly a part of the “elite.” The most primal bond that Trump shares with his followers is a seething resentment of elites. Trump has always been extraordinarily bitter that he’s looked down upon by the upper crust that he’s tried so hard to join. MAGA heads who feel left behind and betrayed by the “establishment” connect with that at a fundamental level. Ivanka, on the other hand, moves effortlessly among the elite of society. The recent story about how she and Jared couldn’t spare one of the six-and-a-half bathrooms for their protective detail to use in their tastefully appointed Washington mansion illustrates the problem. She’s comfortable in that world in a way that Trump has never been. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8681 "2021-01-16T14:27:41Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I can get behind this. Pence has his faults, but has shown in the past few days that he could be Presidential, unlike the CFSG (or should that be Orange-utang?). He’s not perfect, but he will likely attempt a run, I predict that Pence’s political career is over. Trump’s opponents will hate him because he stood by Trump for 4 years. Trump’s supporters will hate him because he didn’t let Trump win the election. I think he won’t be able to get elected Mayor of Podunk, let alone any Presidential Primaries. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8682 "2021-01-16T16:03:45Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Good grief! Certainly NOT! What “officials” are these??? Officials in the White House who remain subject to the President’s ego until noon on Wednesday. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8683 "2021-01-16T16:26:08Z")
I don’t think it’s gonna happen. Nobody except Trump wants to see Trump get a big ceremonial send-off. Most of his staffers hate him. They know he’d throw them under the bus in a moment if it served his purposes, just as he’s done to so many others. He never even went around doing the traditional goodbyes – that was left to Pence. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8684 "2021-01-16T16:27:06Z")
I think, when evaluating anyone’s chances at the presidency, people are underestimating how much the entire conservative establishment immediately falls behind whoever the presidential nominee is. One only needs to look at the 2015-2016 primary season to see how true this is. If Ivanka or Pence or MyPillow Guy is able to fight their way through the primary to be the nominee, every single Republican politician, voter, and media person will instantly transform into believing that person is the second coming of Christ, no matter what they actually believed the day before and no matter what negative things they said about that person before. So don’t count anyone out yet. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8685 "2021-01-16T17:03:04Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Honestly, they don’t even like Pence in Indiana where he used to be the governor. The only reason anyone knows Pence’s homophobic name is because Trump chose him as VP. Let Pence try a nationwide run. As I mentioned, they don’t even like him in Indiana. But what is Hoosiers’ opinion of him? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8686 "2021-01-16T17:47:15Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Good grief! Certainly NOT! What “officials” are these??? I have read elsewhere that although Trump _wants_ red carpet, flyover, etc. there is no way in hell he is going to _get_ it. Trump himself is the only “official” who is pushing this. And the military have been very clear that Trump is not even going to get the traditional customary farewell ceremony from the military, which has been a thing since Reagan. Pentagon has said “no” So if there is a 21 gun salute, it would have to be from his supporters getting gunned down as they attempt another coup. The red carpet will be a toilet paper roll dyed with beet juice. And the flyover will be paper airplanes tossed by staffers out the windows as Trump humps himself dejectedly out. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8687 "2021-01-16T17:48:42Z")
Well, if the 21 guns aren’t loaded with blanks… Here is a news item that clearly shows the difference between trump and Biden: > **[Key lines from the unveiling of Biden's science team | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/16/politics/biden-science-team/index.html)** > > President-elect Joe Biden on Saturday introduced key members of his White House science team, including his nominee for director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8688 "2021-01-16T18:32:55Z")
And whose _paying_ for this? Since when do the taxpayers pay for big bashes to celebrate the removal of twice impeached one term Presidents? I said a long time ago that I didn’t think Trump would leave the White House for the last time on his own volition. It’s oppositional defiance on steroids. I’ve know people with this syndrome. I had to evict one once ( this happened at the end of my real world experience with psychological abuse.) Someone will tell him, “Sir, you have to leave soon”, He’ll start wandering around the residence, taking his time getting ready, he’ll say just a minute, I’m almost ready, and he’ll stall, a couple of them may try to take him by the arms and urge him towards the door, then a couple of more Secret Service will come in to help — they’ll urge him out eventually and this may or may not ever be made public. When I had to evict the kid, after going through the full legal procedure, a marshal came to remove him. After about a half hour the marshal had to call the cops and that took another half hour. No violence, no screaming and yelling, just a full hour of him standing in the middle of a relatively small apart saying …I’m almost ready, just a minute, I just need to look for one thing… But if his departure is late, I think this will be why. And I think that now that’s he’s announced he’s not leaving until Wednesday AM, they’re nervous. They certainly don’t want him to give this last parting gift to the libs. But they know he’s beyond reason and …oppositional defiance. That’s why they are planning the 21 gun salute, the helicopter ride. It’s the equivalent of throwing a bunch of toys on the lawn in order to trick your dog into going outside. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8689 "2021-01-16T18:38:33Z")
Hopefully they will just tell him that all that pomp will happen and then…it just doesn’t. Just like he does-promise and never deliver. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8690 "2021-01-16T18:39:26Z")
As I said, nobody is planning this, and the military have expressly said there will be nothing. Who is going for fire the guns? What will they use for a flyover? It’s only happening in Trump’s head, and if anything, his aides are simply playing along with the deleusion at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8691 "2021-01-16T18:40:33Z")
> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#): > > Hopefully they will just tell him that all that pomp will happen and then…it just doesn’t. Just like he does-promise and never deliver. I think that’s exactly what is going on. They’ll tell him it’s going to happen at 11:58. As he’s looking out the window and the clock ticks on… At 12:01 they’ll tell him that there is nothing happening and citizen Trump needs to get the hell out now. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8692 "2021-01-16T18:44:20Z")
Tell him it’s taking longer than expected because it’ll be the bigliest sendoff any President has ever had, but they’ll bring him back on AF1\* when it’s all ready. In two weeks. \* Yes, I know it won’t really be Air Force One because Biden won’t be on it. But Trump won’t know that. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8693 "2021-01-16T18:47:31Z")
I’ve been informed recently that we libbies are only fans of science because science largely supports our views. “pew pew pew”…(repeat 21 times) ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8694 "2021-01-16T18:48:25Z")
They are using one of Trump’s favorite papers to delude him. Yes, I realize the article says they’re mulling it- not that it will happen. > **[Trump mulling 21-gun salute goodbye on Inauguration Day: AP](https://nypost.com/2021/01/15/trump-mulling-21-gun-salute-goodbye-on-inauguration-day-ap/)** > > President Trump is planning to host a lavish goodbye ceremony next week on the day of President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration, according to a report Friday. Trump is reviewing plans for an e… But it’s still the equivalent of throwing toys on the lawn to lure out the dog. I’ve had dogs, sometimes you can pretend to throw something and they’ll chase it like it’s real. I’ve made this prediction for a while, and until recently it was met with scorn.” You have Trump Derangement Syndrome! Oh course he’ll leave, he’s not insane no matter what you haters say!” OK. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8695 "2021-01-16T18:49:08Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > his aides are simply playing along with the deleusion at this point. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I think that’s exactly what is going on. They’ll tell him it’s going to happen at 11:58 > [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Tell him it’s taking longer than expected because it’ll be the bigliest sendoff any President has ever had Oh, I soooo hope you are both right and staff tell us all the details shortly afterwards, meanwhile telling him “I was just following orders”. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8696 "2021-01-16T18:50:52Z")
I think the imminent loss of deference – almost as magical to him as the adoring cheers at his rallies – is hurting him the most. He really needs to spend the rest of his miserable life hearing “Fuck you, you crazy bastard” as often as possible. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8697 "2021-01-16T18:54:36Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > He really needs to spend the rest of his miserable life hearing “Fuck you, you crazy bastard” as often as possible. Perhaps somehow hardwired into text tone/email tone/ring tone/Twitter alerts preferences on every single phone and device he is allowed access to for the rest of his pitiful life. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8698 "2021-01-16T18:54:59Z")
Circular salute, with orange right in the center. ---
**Author:** ![Dropo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Dropo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dropo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8699 "2021-01-16T19:13:02Z")
From your link: > [@](#): > > “President Trump is planning to host a lavish goodbye ceremony next week on the day of President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration, according to a report Friday.” This would seem to be in accordance with the Delta Tau Chi Axiom: if they’re serious this time with the impeachment/double secret probation, there’s only one thing to do: toga party (or its equivalent). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=433) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=435)