# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 440
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8800 "2021-01-18T22:25:28Z")
> **[The White House's latest excuse for Trump's silence on the Capitol attack is...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/18/politics/hogan-gidley-trump-january-6/index.html)** > > President Donald Trump's egging on of rioters before the storming of the US Capitol -- and his silence as that mob overran the building -- was a deeply injurious moment for the country and a dark mark on his legacy. And it was all social media's... Wild and inaccurate claims from an administration apologist about how social media was to blame. Except that the time frames don’t add up - AND - how DumpsterFire could have appeared on all TV networks in a matter of minutes if the [reviving] “the short fingered vulgarian” gave a rat’s ass about this country and constitution." " What Gidley – and, by extension, Trump – is engaging in is a classic bit of scapegoating. Remember that Trump is fundamentally unable to _ever_ blame himself for _anything_ . And so, in the wake of the disastrous and dangerous events of January 6, he and his cronies are trying to foist the blame on the forces of so-called “Big Tech” that deplatformed Trump _after_ he repeatedly failed to issue a forceful condemnation of the rioters. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8801 "2021-01-18T23:04:30Z")
You _do_ realize that Barr, being Attorney General, had absolutely no choice but to push back on Trump. What else could he do? Agree with Trump but refuse to investigate? Order the entire DOJ to make up evidence of fraud? He’s the one person that could do something about the massive fraud. Trump really believes he won the election. Even in the total absence of evidence, he thinks he’s incapable of losing. Even if he doesn’t believe the wilder conspiracies ( and I don’t think he does ), he thinks anything he does in service of restoring him to his rightful place as President is justified. That’s why he asked the GA Sec of State to flat out lie and say they found a math mistake ( “just say you recalculated”) that changed the result. Trump’s rationale on that call is that since everyone knows he _won by a lot_ and they just can’t find the fraud, it’s A OK to outright cheat to make everything right. Anyway, I digress. Barr was going to quit or get fired. No other option, he was backed into a corner. It was inevitable, that’s why I called it on Nov 6th or thereabouts. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8802 "2021-01-18T23:07:58Z")
Bill Maher usually pisses me off more than he entertains me, but he has a point with this that follows. Since Trump is having such a hard time understanding that he’s lost, no matter who says it, Maher has a Seuss-like childrens book (Pack your shit and go) that explains the situation to the Dumb Don: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/2_BBg-7T5g8/maxresdefault.jpg "Pack Your Sh\*t and Go | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_BBg-7T5g8) ---
**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8803 "2021-01-18T23:19:30Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > You _do_ realize that Barr, being Attorney General, had absolutely no choice but to push back on Trump. > > What else could he do? Agree with Trump but refuse to investigate? Order the entire DOJ to make up evidence of fraud? He’s the one person that could do something about the massive fraud. What’s been clear, in this atmosphere, is that what we think of as “no choice options” were potentially out the window, with people all over the R side, from state certification boards to state legislatures to Congress and Pence potentially willing to do what they couldn’t/shouldn’t. Not that their actions would be sustained, but more fuel is more fuel. I wasn’t thinking he would come up with enough (fake) fraud to claim to sway an election. I was more thinking along the lines of selective release he’s been so good at - say announcing just before Jan 6 that there were a bunch of irregularities being investigated, which would turn out to be 1 or 2 votes but give cover to the legislative coup. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8804 "2021-01-19T01:32:07Z")
An interesting column by sports reporter Rick Telander: “Yes, I write about sports. But the subjects of sports and democracy coalesce. The man who has lied all his adult life; who cheered on the violent assault on our nation’s Capitol; who has cheated at most everything he ever has done, including golf, taxes, contracts and marriage; who boasts and preens like a dictator and would bring down our democracy rather than admit he lost an election — this man has done incalculable harm to our republic. Trump said former 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick was a danger for kneeling silently. He has destroyed trust in facts. He said my profession, the free press, is ‘‘the enemy of the people.’’ Not anymore, Don. Nope. You yourself are the enemy of the people. Own it, con man.” > **[Donald Trump was always a con man, and that includes his time in the USFL](https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/1/18/22237761/donald-trump-was-always-con-man-that-includes-time-usfl-generals-mccaskey-kelly-nfl-telander)** > > The truth was, in his arrogance, Trump unwittingly had followed a secret blueprint the NFL owners had developed, showing the way the USFL could be destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8805 "2021-01-19T02:14:15Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > As I said, nobody is planning this, and the military have expressly said there will be nothing. Who is going for fire the guns? What will they use for a flyover? Welllll… I am reminded of the person who said that a 21 gun salute for Nixon at his funeral would be okay as long as they aimed them into his coffin. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8806 "2021-01-19T02:18:34Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > I am reminded of the person who said that a 21 gun salute for Nixon at his funeral would be okay as long as they aimed them into his coffin Reminds me of Frankie Boyle on Margaret Thatcher’s expensive funeral. “For 3 million you could give everyone in Scotland a shovel, and we could dig a hole so deep we could hand her over to Satan in person.” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8807 "2021-01-19T04:08:37Z")
Yes, a good, solid, unsurprising president, not one that strives for greatness but one who wants to repair this nation and return it to normalcy. Which is exactly what we need. He’s got 2-4 years of Congress, so he should be able to push thru almost every repair. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8808 "2021-01-19T12:54:14Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Yes, a good, solid, unsurprising president, not one that strives for greatness but one who wants to repair this nation and return it to normalcy. Which is exactly what we need. > > He’s got 2-4 years of Congress, so he should be able to push thru almost every repair Yep, I hope so. I hope if a Republican wins in 2024, they are a reasonable person that won’t re-implement everything Trump did. Come on, there has to be a somewhat reasonable Republican out there. Pete Meijer? A guy who voted to impeach something like 10 days(or less?) into his first term as representative? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8809 "2021-01-19T12:55:17Z")
**Modnote** : I’ll make it official, your snipping changes the meaning of the post far more than allowed. As it is when you snip, you should show it with ellipses or some equivalent indicator. But in this case … Biden … would still lose all meaning, Please don’t do this again. _This is just a guidance, not a warning. Nothing on your permanent record._ ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8810 "2021-01-19T16:42:00Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Come on, there has to be a somewhat reasonable Republican out there. I’ve said this in other threads: Larry Hogan, Governor of Maryland. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8811 "2021-01-19T17:02:34Z")
I wouldn’t be surprised if Mitt Romney runs again. He’s built a lot of goodwill among the center-right crowd. And if someone on the far left is nominated (like Warren or Sanders), he could pull a lot of median voters. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8812 "2021-01-19T18:09:22Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > I wouldn’t be surprised if Mitt Romney runs again. He’s built a lot of goodwill among the center-right crowd. And if someone on the far left is nominated (like Warren or Sanders), he could pull a lot of median voters The fear for someone like Romney is the hate they(and probably Meijer) are getting from extremists on the right. I don’t think Romney is going to try again. He lost to Barack Obama, probably will lose to Joe Biden. Maybe he could be Harris? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8813 "2021-01-19T18:19:01Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Maybe he could be Harris? I guess there’s no danger the GOP would lose that seat in the Senate - he’d be an easy replacement in Utah. But would he give up the ability to do more in the Senate than as VP? He’d be a pretty strategic pick if the Presidential candidate wanted him on the ticket - much like Pence was for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8814 "2021-01-19T18:27:31Z")
Sean Spicer applied to join the White House Press Corps. He now reports for Newsmax where he has his own show. What other lies will Spicer be telling the public about the White House? > **[Sean Spicer, Trump's ex-media chief, applies to join White House press corps](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/19/sean-spicer-trump-white-house-press-corps)** > > Former press secretary, who now works for Newsmax, applies for membership of White House Correspondents’ Association ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8815 "2021-01-19T18:47:10Z")
Ironically enough, as much as Spicer lied he turned out to be the best of Trump’s press secretaries. But that just shows the depths the rest of them descended to. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8816 "2021-01-19T18:55:11Z")
Largely too because he had the decency to leave and not to continue compounding the lies over years. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8817 "2021-01-19T21:29:21Z")
Trump is desperate to bump his attendance for his send off. Scaramucci said he even got an invitation to the send off. > **[Trump ‘desperate’ to bulk up numbers at farewell rally, says invitee](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-farewell-rally-biden-inauguration-b1789213.html)** > > Donald Trump’s farewell event may not find many takers Trump is reportedly furious that A-list celebrities are performing at Biden’s inauguration and refused to attend his inauguration. > **[Trump is reportedly furious that A-listers like Lady Gaga and Tom Hanks are...](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-furious-at-celebrities-gaga-hanks-performing-at-biden-inaugural-2021-1)** > > Several top celebrities and performers drew Trump's ire when they boycotted his own inaugural ceremony in 2017. Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy are attending Biden’s chapel service on Wednesday morning and skipping out on Trump’s farewell. Other GOPers may follow. > **[McConnell to attend Inauguration Day church service with Biden](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mcconnell-inauguration-day-church-biden)** > > Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell will spend part of President Trump's final morning as commander in chief at church with President-elect Joe Biden. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8818 "2021-01-19T21:33:09Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy are attending Biden’s chapel service on Wednesday morning and skipping out on Trump’s farewell. Other GOPers may follow.- Ouch! That smarts, eh, Donnie? Hehe. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8819 "2021-01-19T21:48:36Z")
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