# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/881 "2020-11-04T05:12:26Z")

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It occurs to me that if we have the House and the Senate, we can impeach Trump if he wins.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/882 "2020-11-04T05:13:36Z")

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Are we going to have the Senate. Last I looked it was even, but haven’t checked lately

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**Author:** ![CoconutPete](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coconutpete/32/5294_2.png) [@CoconutPete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoconutPete)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/883 "2020-11-04T05:14:41Z")

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Sure you can impeach but you’ll never get the votes to convict.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/884 "2020-11-04T05:14:48Z")

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We won’t have 2/3 of the Senate so it will fail again.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/885 "2020-11-04T05:15:08Z")

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But Joe just won Virginia.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/886 "2020-11-04T05:15:56Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Yes it was. “Shows that Trumps wins” is NOT the same as “Trump had won”

Bad semantics. But your first quote wasn’t right either.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/887 "2020-11-04T05:15:56Z")

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Looking at the PA numbers, I think Biden will lose. He is losing by 600,000 votes, and my back of the envelope guess is that he advances by 450,000 net votes in Philadelphia and its suburbs, and picks up 200,000 in Pittsburgh. Trump, however, has several hundreds of thousands of net votes scattered around the state. Trump will win Pennsylvania, and the election.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/888 "2020-11-04T05:16:47Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Yes it was. “Shows that Trumps wins” is NOT the same as “Trump had won”

Ok fella. What you posted is not at all what my link shows. Does that mean I think Biden will win? No, but it most certainly does not show what you claim it shows.

You want to argue verb tenses and what you _meant_? Ho-kay. 🙄

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**Author:** ![CoconutPete](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coconutpete/32/5294_2.png) [@CoconutPete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoconutPete)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/889 "2020-11-04T05:17:04Z")

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And?..

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/890 "2020-11-04T05:17:19Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Looking at the PA numbers, I think Biden will lose.

PA’s government doesn’t even expect to have a final result until Friday.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/891 "2020-11-04T05:17:57Z")

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Not if Biden wins AZ and the 3rd? Congressional District in Nebraska. I think.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/892 "2020-11-04T05:18:05Z")

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Earlier numbers had him losing it. As more results come in the votes will tend to go Biden.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/893 "2020-11-04T05:18:06Z")

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> [@Mike\_Mabes](#):
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> Nothing. They nominated Biden. The last choice among all Democrats who are even remotely progressive, hell not progressive, just a little to the left of center. Dem primary voters bought into the whole “most likely to defeat Trump” and “he can work with the other side” stuff. If it had not been for COVID, the election would already be over in a Trump landslide, with Biden as a candidate.
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> Dems once again pick the worst possible candidate. Biden, Hilllary, Kerry, Dukakis.
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> Anyway, too early for this. We can talk about why Biden lost if he actually loses, the odds are still in his favor

This is a high turnout election. Even if the map is exactly the same as 2016, Biden did not pull a Gore or a Hillary Clinton. Assuming Biden loses, and I think he will, this shows that Trump has remade the electorate. I think the Democrats would have lost with Sanders or any of the other candidates that ran in the primary. You name it, they would have lost. Harris, Warren, Bloomberg, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Yang, Booker, Castro, none of them would have done better than Biden is doing. Even Kasich or Mitt Romney, had they run as Democrats, would lose a head to head vs. Trump. The problem is that conservatives no longer care about the economy, the environment, foreign policy, or any other issue. All they care about is “triggering the libs.” As long as that remains the case, Democrats are not going to win an election. No, I have no idea how to get conservatives to abandon that mindset.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/894 "2020-11-04T05:18:24Z")

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NYT just gave Ohio to Trump.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/895 "2020-11-04T05:19:07Z")

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That’s when they expect to be done counting. The winner could be determined well before then.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/896 "2020-11-04T05:19:12Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> No, I have no idea how to get conservatives to abandon that mindset.

I recommend banning the party, imprisoning its leaders and elected officials, and stripping the franchise from the traitors that make up its voters.

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**Author:** ![CoconutPete](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coconutpete/32/5294_2.png) [@CoconutPete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoconutPete)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/897 "2020-11-04T05:19:16Z")

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The rare exception for tonight, everything else had Biden winning and then flipped.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/898 "2020-11-04T05:19:17Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> PA’s government doesn’t even expect to have a final result until Friday.

I’m just going by the facts.

But now GA may have more uncounted ballots than previously reported. The NY Times is calling it a tossup. That could offset PA.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/899 "2020-11-04T05:19:20Z")

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You, sadly, may be right.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/900 "2020-11-04T05:20:39Z")

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> [@Mike\_Mabes](#):
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> Not if Biden wins AZ and the 3rd? Congressional District in Nebraska. I think.

Steve Czarnacki (sp?) on MSNBC showed, a few minutes ago, that if Biden can get AZ, NV, WI, MI, MN, and that one NE district, along with what they have already projected for him, that’s exactly 270.

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