# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 67
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1322 "2020-11-04T14:17:22Z")
@Kearsen, can you flesh out how the Democrats should both be more inclusive and also jettison large parts of their support? It doesn’t make any sense to me. If you could @ me, I’d appreciate it, because this thread is moving too fast for me. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1323 "2020-11-04T14:18:53Z")
> [@Kearsen1](#): > > That cry of socialism can only work if you do a poor job of being inclusive. When you only want the “socialist” policy to benefit some other group and it doesn’t help much of the in crowd, then the socialism label can stick. > > Reach out to more than just the people you identify with the identity politics that has been the trend the past decade. As has been said in this thread already: “oh, you mean like health care reform and a minimum wage increase?” Or what about voter enfranchisement? The implication that Dems are only, or even primarily, targeted at minority demographics is laughable, and that Dems’ policies and positions aren’t “inclusive” of white people even more so. Change your sources of information; you have no idea what you’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lantern2/32/3010_2.png) [@Lantern2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern2)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1324 "2020-11-04T14:22:55Z")
I believe Biden is now ahead in enough states to add up to 270 EV, definitely a landmark in this count. However he really doesn’t want to win 270-268, when a single faithless elector could throw his election into turmoil. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1325 "2020-11-04T14:23:28Z")
> [@Boycott](#): > > Obamacare as a name was initially made to be a dig at the president for trying to bring in socialized medicine and take away people’s freedom. The irony being that the ACA/Obamacare isn’t even close to “socialized medicine.” 🤦🏽‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1326 "2020-11-04T14:24:12Z")
That would be the most 2020 result I could imagine at this point. I can’t even predict where that would put us, but none of the alternatives seem optimistic. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1327 "2020-11-04T14:24:12Z")
I was just coming here to say that,i dont see how he gets more then that though. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1328 "2020-11-04T14:24:32Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > All three are looking likely at this point, right? That is my current understanding. BUT: > [@Lantern2](#): > > However he really doesn’t want to win 270-268, when a single faithless elector could throw his election into turmoil. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1329 "2020-11-04T14:24:35Z")
By the way Biden has flipped Arizona becoming only the third Democrat post-WW2 to win the state (Truman 1948 and Clinton 1996 won the state). He is also looking very competitive in Georgia perhaps becoming only the third Democrat in the past forty years to win the state (Carter who is from Georgia in 1980 and Clinton in 1992). It’s not all doom and gloom. Trump didn’t put one state that voted against him four years ago into the GOP column and perhaps Arizona and potentially Georgia could become like Virginia and Colorado that once they turn blue for the first time they become reliable. Arizona has a strong Hispanic community so there may be a much more cultural issue at hand that plagued Biden in Florida than mere demographic abandonment. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1330 "2020-11-04T14:24:43Z")
Those in politics can’t afford to blame the voters or call them stupid. But those of us sitting on the sidelines certainly can - why not? ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1331 "2020-11-04T14:25:28Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and NE-2 gets him to 270. Looking at the current Google and Politico maps, and substituting Nevada for NE-2 – I’m feeling cautiously better. Very cautiously; but better. > [@Wrenching\_Spanners](#): > > Winning Nevada, Wisconsin and Michigan wins the presidency for Biden and Trump’s lead in Michigan has been dwindling all day. Biden’s now leading in Michigan on both of those maps. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1332 "2020-11-04T14:26:11Z")
I’m crunching the numbers. If the % of votes counted is accurate in each state (a BIG if), Biden needs to get the following percent of remaining votes in each state: - AZ: 40% - WI: 50% - NV: 49% - MI: 50% - PA: 68% - GA: 64% ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1333 "2020-11-04T14:27:40Z")
@Rittersport,They don’t need to jettison them, but as has been discussed in other threads, that very vocal minority is seen AS the democratic party platform. I understand that policy isn’t being built around those folks, but man it sure is front and center (Bernie almost got the nomination). I think the way forward is for a more central party to form (of both Dams and Reps) who would have entirely decided this election if they weren’t just voting against one guy but for their own interests. Most Republicans I know can’t stand Trump, but NO ONE else holds any of their ideals. Most of them I know, are glad to get conservative judges but cringe when they see tweets from the President. This board is incredibly left leaning (at least some of the most vocal portions of it) and that left lean disenfranchises any support you’d get in the center from Reps. I consider myself a conservative, yet I voted for Obama. The current trend of being woke and identity politics sickens me though ---
**Author:** ![sweepkick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweepkick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweepkick)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1334 "2020-11-04T14:27:46Z")
> [@Kearsen1](#): > > The point probably being what has been said many times in this thread already. Identity politics ain’t working, so stop that shit? The irony in your words here is that the GOP are absolute masters of identity politics. i.e. rural, christian, white. So please, get some perspective. ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1335 "2020-11-04T14:28:24Z")
I must be stupid, forgive me please! ---
**Author:** ![YamatoTwinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@YamatoTwinkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YamatoTwinkie)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1336 "2020-11-04T14:28:43Z")
> [@Monocracy](#): > > I see very little information regarding the two competitive districts in Maine and Nebraska. Most results seem to ignore these. CNN has Biden getting one electoral vote in Nebraska. Is this a final projection? I see NewsNation also has one for Biden in NE, and one unallocated in Maine. Anyone have any idea how close ME is? > > A single vote from one of those two districts can have a huge effect if Biden loses PA but wins Arizona. NE-2 was called for Biden by pretty much everyone. ME-2 still hasn’t been called, but I think was leaning R. Only one is really needed for Biden to win a 270EV squeaker with AZ, NV, MI, WI. The only way ME-2 would really come into play is an oddball result where NC flips over to Biden while MI goes to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1337 "2020-11-04T14:29:18Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > I’m crunching the numbers. If the % of votes counted is accurate in each state (a BIG if), Biden needs to get the following percent of remaining votes in each state: > > - AZ: 40% > - WI: 50% > - NV: 49% > - MI: 50% > - PA: 68% > - GA: 64% That’s good news for Michigan since most of the remaining votes are coming from Democratic-leaning areas.I hope the same is true for WI and NV. ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1338 "2020-11-04T14:29:39Z")
It isn’t ironic, its that their voting block is bigger than yours. You have 2 options: 1. Wait until yours is bigger 2. Include more people ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1339 "2020-11-04T14:31:15Z")
> [@Kearsen1](#): > > It isn’t ironic, its that their voting block is bigger than yours. Except that the Democratic voting block has been bigger in the last 4 elections, and in 5 of the last 6. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1340 "2020-11-04T14:32:06Z")
> [@Kearsen1](#): > > It isn’t ironic, its that their voting block is bigger than yours. > > You have 2 options: > > 1. Wait until yours is bigger > 2. Include more people Umm… Biden: 68,987,489 Trump: 66,287,803 It ain’t the size of the bloc, it’s where they’re located at. ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1341 "2020-11-04T14:32:58Z")
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