# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1342 "2020-11-04T14:33:12Z")

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The problem is doing so potentially abandons abortion rights. Are we really going to go there?

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1343 "2020-11-04T14:33:17Z")

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> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> It isn’t ironic, its that their voting block is bigger than yours.
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> You have 2 options:
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> 1. Wait until yours is bigger
> 2. Include more people

Black americans: “help we are getting shot down in the streets”  
Democrats: “hey, maybe black lives matter or something?”  
White voters: “I am SICK and TIRED of these identity politics! I don’t want to hear about black people’s problems, OK?!”

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1344 "2020-11-04T14:33:45Z")

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> [@sweepkick](#):
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> The irony in your words here is that the GOP are absolute masters of identity politics. i.e. rural, christian, white. So please, get some perspective.

Yeah, only the social progressive wing of the Democratic party engages in it to a degree anywhere approaching the GOP. The economic progressives and moderates do not and are indeed criticized for it by the social progressives.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1345 "2020-11-04T14:34:25Z")

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The voters ARE stupid - but the voters are US!

As of this moment, looking positive for MI/WI/NV - for 270. Going for a long bike ride. Hope things look at least as good in a couple of hours.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1346 "2020-11-04T14:34:30Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> > [@sweepkick](#):
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> > The irony in your words here is that the GOP are absolute masters of identity politics. i.e. rural, christian, white. So please, get some perspective.
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> Yeah, only the social progressive wing of the Democratic party engages in it to a degree anywhere approaching the GOP. The economic progressives and moderates do not and are indeed criticized for it by the social progressives

It’s not identity politics if the identity in question is “rural fundamentalist christian white”.

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**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1347 "2020-11-04T14:34:47Z")

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I think abortion rights aren’t going anywhere, the only people you fight so hard against are the very religious right. The group isn’t the Republicans, AND it is shrinking.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1348 "2020-11-04T14:35:08Z")

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CNN just said that all the election day in person voting was accounted for in Nevada, and the remaining votes to count were all mail in ballots, mostly for Clark County. I don’t see how Trump gets 50%+ of those votes. Nevada is probably safe.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1349 "2020-11-04T14:36:38Z")

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> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> I think abortion rights aren’t going anywhere, the only people you fight so hard against are the very religious right. The group isn’t the Republicans, AND it is shrinking.

Abortion rights are ALREADY GONE in red states. You don’t have true abortion rights if there’s one clinic and it’s 150 miles away and you need your parents permission to get an abortion.

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**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1350 "2020-11-04T14:36:39Z")

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Everyone wants to help, right until you exclude them or lump them into the out group.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1351 "2020-11-04T14:36:49Z")

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> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> Most Republicans I know can’t stand Trump, but NO ONE else holds any of their ideals.

> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> I consider myself a conservative, yet I voted for Obama. The current trend of being woke and identity politics sickens me though

Your priorities are wrong. Much like those of Trump voters.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1352 "2020-11-04T14:37:26Z")

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> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> Everyone wants to help, right until you exclude them or lump them into the out group.

How is saying “black lives matter” excluding anyone or putting them in an out group?

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1353 "2020-11-04T14:37:35Z")

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Sen. Bob Casey Jr., D-PA on the Today show just now:

> I’m confident that Biden will eventually win PA by 100,000 votes. That’s a conservative number.

Wishful thinking?

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**Author:** ![Wrenching\_Spanners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecb155/32.png) [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1354 "2020-11-04T14:38:02Z")

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The estimated percentage of counted votes has been moving around all day. It seems like it’s been consistently low. That’s been good news for Biden since he had a lot more ground to make up when I checked the numbers around six hours ago.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1355 "2020-11-04T14:38:23Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/1323991751049256960?s=19>

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**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1356 "2020-11-04T14:38:53Z")

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They must be since I don’t align with any party

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1357 "2020-11-04T14:39:32Z")

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> **[The Remaining Vote in Pennsylvania Appears to Be Overwhelmingly for Biden...](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/upshot/pennsylvania-election-results-ballots.html)**
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> The president leads by nearly 700,000 votes, but there are 1.4 million absentee votes outstanding.

Which leads us to:

> **[Trump's call to halt vote counts is his most brazen swipe at democracy yet |...](https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/04/politics/election-2020-donald-trump-joe-biden-voting-speech/index.html?utm_source=twCNN&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_content=2020-11-04T10%3A27%3A26)**
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> President Donald Trump's demand for vote counting to stop in an election that is still undecided may have been his most extreme and dangerous assault on the institutions of democracy yet in a presidency replete with them.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1358 "2020-11-04T14:40:10Z")

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What is taking Georgia so long? Concerned that NYT no longer showing that 60% probability for Biden.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1359 "2020-11-04T14:41:19Z")

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> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> That cry of socialism can only work if you do a poor job of being inclusive.

> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> More arrogant thinking, I am not surprised. You worry too much about the “other” guy and what YOU think he represents.  
> Worry about your OWN option to put forward.

You’re repeatedly demanding that the Democrats reason Trump voters out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into, and then blaming the Democrats for not being able to do so. And _then_ calling others “arrogant” for pointing out the fundamental flaw in your argument.

But then “It’s the Democrats’ fault that people are voting for blatantly incompetent and corrupt Republican candidates” is a favorite narrative amongst those looking to blame the Democrats for, well, everything. It’s not a position based in reason either.

> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> The current trend of being woke and identity politics sickens me though

As already pointed out, even when the Democrats focus on economic issues they are accused of prioritizing “identity politics”, much in the same way that any economic policy they propose is called “socialism”. Also, the GOP has literally been pushing the return of redlining this campaign. Isn’t that “identity politics” writ large? Why doesn’t that sicken you even more?

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**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1360 "2020-11-04T14:41:29Z")

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One of the counties had a water pipe leak at the polling station which caused a problem. No ballots were distorted though. And then they decided to call it a night and resume counting in the morning.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1361 "2020-11-04T14:41:47Z")

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Shows 64% for me right now.

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